Well .. the EPMP's are very well shielded, and for the Ubiquiti radios there is 
a 'shielded twist port' 
...and for exactly the point you are making I used the word 'interesting' ! 

:) 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] 

> From: "Jason McKemie" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 3:16:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] F/B Video on Cambium forum

> Interesting antenna / interface, not sure about the radios themselves 
> though...

> On Tuesday, December 22, 2015, Faisal Imtiaz < [email protected] > 
> wrote:

>> Yes... Rf Elements Simper's ... very interesting products.. :)

>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]

>>> From: "Ken Hohhof" < [email protected] >
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 2:25:47 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] F/B Video on Cambium forum

>>> Sounds like Faisal may be referring to the Devo hats Energy Domes SIMPER 
>>> horns?
>>> From: Faisal Imtiaz
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 1:14 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] F/B Video on Cambium forum
>>> I just want to make sure that I understand clearly what that video is
>>> stipulating ....
>>> and Josh, yes there is family of sector antennas (a bit funky looking) which
>>> have these specs.. + a few other very interesting design features. I have 
>>> been
>>> looking for more technical info explanation as to why they are supposed to 
>>> be
>>> 'awesome'...
>>> This video provides an independent, solid non biased tech opinion as to why.
>>> Just looking for confirmation of my understanding..
>>> Regards
>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]

>>>> From: "Bill Prince" < [email protected] >
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 2:07:31 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] F/B Video on Cambium forum

>>>> One kick-ass antenna.

>>>> bp
>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>> On 12/22/2015 11:05 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

>>>>> What in the world would have 36 or 53 front/back???
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Faisal Imtiaz < [email protected] 
>>>>> >
>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>> Interesting info..
>>>>>> So if we can use sector antenna which have 36/37/or 53 db of Front to 
>>>>>> back
>>>>>> ratio, then these would be some serious kick ass antennas ?
>>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>>>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

>>>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]

>>>>>>> From: "Sriram Chaturvedi" < [email protected] >
>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 11:31:45 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] F/B Video on Cambium forum

>>>>>>> Hi Ken,
>>>>>>> You are correct about ATPC taking care of equalizing the UL RSSI at the 
>>>>>>> AP.
>>>>>>> For downlink, as long as the antenna has good F/B ratio (32 dB like you
>>>>>>> indicated) and the back-to-back APs are set to the same Tx power, it 
>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>> help. But maintaining 32 dB F/B ratio throughout the beam-width of the 
>>>>>>> antenna
>>>>>>> can be a challenge.
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Sriram
>>>>>>> Join the Conversation
>>>>>>> Cambium Networks Community Forum

>>>>>>>> On Dec 22, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Ken Hohhof < [email protected] > wrote:
>>>>>>>> It probably seems that F/B ratio doesn’t need explaining. The biggest 
>>>>>>>> hurdle is
>>>>>>>> probably when WISPs start looking at third party antennas and other 
>>>>>>>> shiny
>>>>>>>> objects (like price and antenna gain) distract them from looking for a 
>>>>>>>> F/B spec
>>>>>>>> around 32 dB if they ever want to do frequency reuse. The main thing 
>>>>>>>> this video
>>>>>>>> probably does is to focus on why F/B ratio is important, even with GPS 
>>>>>>>> sync.
>>>>>>>> I would add that uplink interference can be worse because of varying 
>>>>>>>> distance to
>>>>>>>> SMs. A near SM can blast through the backside of the sector and 
>>>>>>>> overwhelm the
>>>>>>>> signal from a distant SM on the front side. ATPC can help with uplink
>>>>>>>> interference by at least equalizing the received levels from near and 
>>>>>>>> far SMs,
>>>>>>>> but ATPC typically doesn’t help with downlink interference.
>>>>>>>> From: Sakid Ahmed
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 9:51 AM
>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] F/B Video on Cambium forum
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>> We just uploaded a video about F/B ratio on our community forum. 
>>>>>>>> Curious to get
>>>>>>>> some feedback from all the experts here.
>>>>>>>> http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/ePMP-1000/What-is-front-to-back-ratio/m-p/47820
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>> Sakid
>>>>>>>> Sakid Ahmed
>>>>>>>> S [email protected]
>>>>>>>> (M) 1-773-780-5226 Skype: Sakid.ahmed
>>>>>>>> Join the Conversation
>>>>>>>> Cambium Networks Community Forum
>>>>>>>> From: Af < [email protected] > on behalf of Chuck McCown < 
>>>>>>>> [email protected] >
>>>>>>>> Reply-To: " [email protected] " < [email protected] >
>>>>>>>> Date: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 at 8:57 AM
>>>>>>>> To: " [email protected] " < [email protected] >
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Headphone adapter
>>>>>>>> Silly, you could have made it up in volume...
>>>>>>>> From: Forrest Christian (List Account)
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 3:24 AM
>>>>>>>> To: af
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Headphone adapter
>>>>>>>> I really wish I could find a custom cable manufacturer who I could 
>>>>>>>> have make
>>>>>>>> these for me again.
>>>>>>>> The company I was having make them kept raising the per piece prices 
>>>>>>>> and also
>>>>>>>> the minimum order... then was shocked when I refused to order several 
>>>>>>>> years
>>>>>>>> worth for twice what I was currently charging my customers.
>>>>>>>> On Dec 21, 2015 4:17 PM, "George Skorup" < [email protected] > wrote:

>>>>>>>>> That would need to be a 6p6c/rj12. You could easily buy that or 
>>>>>>>>> anything like
>>>>>>>>> it, clip the rj plug off and crimp a new properly wired rj12 on it.

>>>>>>>>> The best kits were the ones Forrest had made that were molded and are 
>>>>>>>>> no longer
>>>>>>>>> made. And of course every freakin tech lost them.

>>>>>>>>> On 12/21/2015 3:44 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

>>>>>>>>>> Actually, this link may be better
>>>>>>>>>> http://m.aliexpress.com/item/32284032088.html?adminSeq=220301292&productId=32284032088&productId=32284032088&shopNumber=1019232&productSubject=Free-Shipping-3-5MM-Phone-Headset-to-RJ9-RJ10-RJ22-Headset-Plug-Adapter-3-5MM-to&detailNewVersion=2&tracelog=wwwdetail2mobilesitedetail
>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 21, 2015 3:36 PM, "Nate Burke" < [email protected] > wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't see it on the PDMNet website, I emailed them to ask. I"m 
>>>>>>>>>>> pretty sure
>>>>>>>>>>> that although Monoprice has everything else, including completely 
>>>>>>>>>>> outfitting
>>>>>>>>>>> your elementary school band, they don't have these adapters.

>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/21/2015 3:22 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>> SurplusWirelessGear and maybe PDMNet sell them ready to go, I 
>>>>>>>>>>>> believe.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Josh Reynolds < 
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] > wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Probably monoprice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Monoprice.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 21, 2015 3:02 PM, "Nate Burke" < [email protected] > 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anybody sell the RJ14 to Headphone jack premade at a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reasonable price,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <$10? I used to have a pile of them, but I Can't find them now, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I'm too
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lazy to go get the components to make one.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think once upon a time, someone was selling a default plug and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> headphone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adapter in a combo pack.

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