It's the 844E copper Ethernet version.
On Friday, January 1, 2016, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote: > Wait, are these the gpon gigacenters, 802.11AC, beamforming? > On Jan 1, 2016 9:31 PM, "Sean Heskett" <[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > >> I don't know where you are getting your pricing for calix Josh but we are >> paying nowhere near what you are stating here. >> >> We buy the gigacenters for $149 and the cloud platform is $150/mo for 500 >> users. >> >> We charge $99 "setup fee" to our clients and $12/mo. for our "managed >> wifi" service. ROI is ~4months/client. >> >> So the first 13 clients pay for the cloud platform for the other 487. >> >> Sean >> >> >> On Friday, January 1, 2016, Josh Reynolds <[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: >> >>> I have a very modest home if you don't count the barn and unfinished >>> basement. Around 1860sqrft. 5GHz barely works through one plaster or >>> sheetrock wall in my home. >>> >>> I'm "desiring" a solution where we can have the customer name and >>> account number in the admin panel, then drill down and manage their gpon >>> router, and the multiple wireless APs on their account. Flow export is >>> okay, but procera does a far better job than calix in that regard (data >>> monitoring for customer troubleshooting). >>> >>> Hopefully this comes to fruition without costing us $7+ /sub/month like >>> calix does. >>> On Jan 1, 2016 5:42 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Interesting they refer to 2.4 GHz as for “legacy devices”. I suspect >>>> that 5 GHz in the large homes of the likely target market will need more >>>> than 1 access point to cover the entire house, despite the best MIMO and >>>> beamforming technology. Especially the way some customers resist locating >>>> the router at the center of the house because “I don’t want to look at >>>> wires”. >>>> >>>> Really, new houses should be designed and wired with probably 10 >>>> gigabit Internet in mind, assuming you won’t want to rip the walls open in >>>> 10 or 20 years to rewire. If rooms are designed with places for “network >>>> boxes” and fiber or Cat6/7 cable back to a hub point, the electronics can >>>> be upgraded as technology evolves. >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Chuck McCown >>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 01, 2016 4:50 PM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - bad dream >>>> >>>> https://www.calix.com/systems/gigafamily-overview/GigaCenters.html >>>> >>>> *From:* Sterling Jacobson >>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 01, 2016 3:36 PM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - bad dream >>>> >>>> >>>> Ok, do you have a link to information then? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I’m not familiar with Calix for this particular solution, though I’ve >>>> heard of them. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Also, I’m lazy J >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett >>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 1, 2016 3:25 PM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - bad dream >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> $149 >>>> >>>> On Friday, January 1, 2016, Sterling Jacobson <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> For $200? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Af [mailto:javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');] >>>> *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett >>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 1, 2016 2:24 PM >>>> *To:* javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]'); >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - bad dream >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Calix can do all that and a whole lot more sterling >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Friday, January 1, 2016, Sterling Jacobson < >>>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> wrote: >>>> >>>> I hear you. >>>> >>>> My new year's goal is to find a better solution for my customers. >>>> >>>> Unfortunately, at 100-1000Mbps, the pickings are still slim. >>>> >>>> I would like to use MikroTik and manage the routing, but I'm finding >>>> that it's still best to get a really nice $100-$300+ single Wireless AC >>>> router and place it in the center of the house. >>>> >>>> What I would really like is a good split solution with routing in the >>>> head/basement, and wireless AC in bridge mode in one or two places in the >>>> house. >>>> >>>> But that doesn't seem to exist. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof >>>> Sent: Friday, January 1, 2016 10:30 AM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - bad dream >>>> >>>> I'm seeing a gradual increase in customers leasing a managed Mikrotik >>>> from us, we charge $5/mo for a RB951G-2HnD which has been very trouble free >>>> for us once we tweak a couple WiFi parameters. I think they look at the >>>> pile of discarded routers in their closet and decide to let someone else >>>> deal with it. Most still fall into either the "I can buy one at Walmart >>>> for $50" camp or the "I like going to Best Buy and letting the sales guy >>>> talk me into the >>>> $250 router because I like shopping for expensive toys" camp. And >>>> people still look at the humble little white Mikrotik in its plain brown >>>> box and think it can't possibly match their big black AC1900 router that >>>> looks like a weapon from Star Wars. >>>> >>>> The question I guess is whether to join the cable/telco crowd and >>>> supply the WiFi router and manage it for no additional revenue, and then >>>> what to do about the people who still want to put their own Star Wars >>>> router behind it. >>>> >>>> It is very disappointing that since Belkin bought Linksys they are now >>>> designing their own Linksys branded routers that are far worse than the >>>> Linksys designed E series which certainly had their own problems. I >>>> replaced a customer's Belksys AC1900 router with a Mikrotik this week and >>>> they went from having total dead spots in parts of their house on both 2.4 >>>> and 5 GHz to having full bars and great performance everywhere including >>>> the basement. Their minds were boggled at this little white box with no >>>> external antennas blowing away the big black monster. >>>> >>>> Of the household brands, Netgear doesn't seem all that bad, except >>>> their low end WNR2000 has a really high failure rate. I see people >>>> starting to trend toward less known brands like Asus and TP-Link. But too >>>> many of my customers think the electronics store is "Walmart" and they seem >>>> to come back with these Belkin pieces of crap, I particularly hate the >>>> model that only has 1 LED on the whole router and you have to interpret the >>>> color and number of flashes, it's like figuring out what R2D2 is saying. >>>> What's that R2? No link on port 3? >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Simon Westlake >>>> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 11:04 AM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - bad dream >>>> >>>> I've honestly given up completely on all residential routers, they seem >>>> to be slowly converging on a common denominator which is that none of them >>>> work properly and only last a few months. I had to replace my router >>>> recently, and just got a Mikrotik instead. One of the guys I work with just >>>> replaced his old Linksys with a Mikrotik, and all of his minor problems >>>> went away. >>>> >>>> I used to think that it was a bad idea to provide managed routers to >>>> end users, but I'm slowly changing my mind after realizing how many issues >>>> are caused by them. There's also a lot you could do to provide better >>>> service to an end user, hypothetically.. let's say you put in a DD-WRT or >>>> Mikrotik router and setup some shaping on the client side with SFQ. >>>> They'd probably see a lot less issues with their Netflix buffering when >>>> their Xbox was downloading a game, or their VoIP cutting out when they're >>>> watching Daredevil in 4K. >>>> >>>> On 1/1/2016 10:05 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >>>> > I had a bad dream where all my customers go to Walmart and buy Belkin >>>> > routers. I tried to wake up but I wasn't dreaming. >>>> Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!! >>>> > >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Simon Westlake >>>> Skype: Simon_Sonar >>>> Email: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]'); >>>> Phone: (702) 447-1247 >>>> --------------------------- >>>> Sonar Software Inc >>>> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS https://sonar.software >>>> >>>>
