No, he said it wasn't. 844E copper Ethernet version. Regards, Chuck
On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 10:55 AM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote: > Just for confirmation, this is on the gpon version? Now I'm wondering what > other prices you are getting... > > Can you hit me up off list? > On Jan 4, 2016 7:47 AM, "Craig Schmaderer" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Just hit up your sales manager. We buy them with 5 year warranties at >> $179. So far best $150 home routers we have used. >> >> Craig schmaderer >> Skywave Wireless, Inc. >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 10:03 PM -0800, "Josh Reynolds" < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> Interesting. I'm curious why our price on the gpon version is $244/ea >> then. >> On Jan 1, 2016 10:41 PM, "Sean Heskett" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> It's the 844E copper Ethernet version. >>> >>> >>> On Friday, January 1, 2016, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Wait, are these the gpon gigacenters, 802.11AC, beamforming? >>>> On Jan 1, 2016 9:31 PM, "Sean Heskett" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I don't know where you are getting your pricing for calix Josh but we >>>>> are paying nowhere near what you are stating here. >>>>> >>>>> We buy the gigacenters for $149 and the cloud platform is $150/mo for >>>>> 500 users. >>>>> >>>>> We charge $99 "setup fee" to our clients and $12/mo. for our "managed >>>>> wifi" service. ROI is ~4months/client. >>>>> >>>>> So the first 13 clients pay for the cloud platform for the other 487. >>>>> >>>>> Sean >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, January 1, 2016, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I have a very modest home if you don't count the barn and unfinished >>>>>> basement. Around 1860sqrft. 5GHz barely works through one plaster or >>>>>> sheetrock wall in my home. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm "desiring" a solution where we can have the customer name and >>>>>> account number in the admin panel, then drill down and manage their gpon >>>>>> router, and the multiple wireless APs on their account. Flow export is >>>>>> okay, but procera does a far better job than calix in that regard (data >>>>>> monitoring for customer troubleshooting). >>>>>> >>>>>> Hopefully this comes to fruition without costing us $7+ /sub/month >>>>>> like calix does. >>>>>> On Jan 1, 2016 5:42 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Interesting they refer to 2.4 GHz as for “legacy devices”. I >>>>>>> suspect that 5 GHz in the large homes of the likely target market will >>>>>>> need >>>>>>> more than 1 access point to cover the entire house, despite the best >>>>>>> MIMO >>>>>>> and beamforming technology. Especially the way some customers resist >>>>>>> locating the router at the center of the house because “I don’t want to >>>>>>> look at wires”. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Really, new houses should be designed and wired with probably 10 >>>>>>> gigabit Internet in mind, assuming you won’t want to rip the walls open >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> 10 or 20 years to rewire. If rooms are designed with places for >>>>>>> “network >>>>>>> boxes” and fiber or Cat6/7 cable back to a hub point, the electronics >>>>>>> can >>>>>>> be upgraded as technology evolves. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *From:* Chuck McCown >>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 01, 2016 4:50 PM >>>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - bad dream >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.calix.com/systems/gigafamily-overview/GigaCenters.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *From:* Sterling Jacobson >>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 01, 2016 3:36 PM >>>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - bad dream >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ok, do you have a link to information then? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I’m not familiar with Calix for this particular solution, though >>>>>>> I’ve heard of them. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also, I’m lazy J >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett >>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 1, 2016 3:25 PM >>>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - bad dream >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> $149 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Friday, January 1, 2016, Sterling Jacobson <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For $200? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto: >>>>>>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');] *On Behalf Of >>>>>>> *Sean Heskett >>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 1, 2016 2:24 PM >>>>>>> *To:* javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]'); >>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - bad dream >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Calix can do all that and a whole lot more sterling >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Friday, January 1, 2016, Sterling Jacobson < >>>>>>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I hear you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My new year's goal is to find a better solution for my customers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Unfortunately, at 100-1000Mbps, the pickings are still slim. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would like to use MikroTik and manage the routing, but I'm finding >>>>>>> that it's still best to get a really nice $100-$300+ single Wireless AC >>>>>>> router and place it in the center of the house. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What I would really like is a good split solution with routing in >>>>>>> the head/basement, and wireless AC in bridge mode in one or two places >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> the house. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But that doesn't seem to exist. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 1, 2016 10:30 AM >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - bad dream >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm seeing a gradual increase in customers leasing a managed >>>>>>> Mikrotik from us, we charge $5/mo for a RB951G-2HnD which has been very >>>>>>> trouble free for us once we tweak a couple WiFi parameters. I think >>>>>>> they >>>>>>> look at the pile of discarded routers in their closet and decide to let >>>>>>> someone else deal with it. Most still fall into either the "I can buy >>>>>>> one >>>>>>> at Walmart for $50" camp or the "I like going to Best Buy and letting >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> sales guy talk me into the >>>>>>> $250 router because I like shopping for expensive toys" camp. And >>>>>>> people still look at the humble little white Mikrotik in its plain brown >>>>>>> box and think it can't possibly match their big black AC1900 router that >>>>>>> looks like a weapon from Star Wars. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The question I guess is whether to join the cable/telco crowd and >>>>>>> supply the WiFi router and manage it for no additional revenue, and then >>>>>>> what to do about the people who still want to put their own Star Wars >>>>>>> router behind it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It is very disappointing that since Belkin bought Linksys they are >>>>>>> now designing their own Linksys branded routers that are far worse than >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> Linksys designed E series which certainly had their own problems. I >>>>>>> replaced a customer's Belksys AC1900 router with a Mikrotik this week >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> they went from having total dead spots in parts of their house on both >>>>>>> 2.4 >>>>>>> and 5 GHz to having full bars and great performance everywhere including >>>>>>> the basement. Their minds were boggled at this little white box with no >>>>>>> external antennas blowing away the big black monster. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Of the household brands, Netgear doesn't seem all that bad, except >>>>>>> their low end WNR2000 has a really high failure rate. I see people >>>>>>> starting to trend toward less known brands like Asus and TP-Link. But >>>>>>> too >>>>>>> many of my customers think the electronics store is "Walmart" and they >>>>>>> seem >>>>>>> to come back with these Belkin pieces of crap, I particularly hate the >>>>>>> model that only has 1 LED on the whole router and you have to interpret >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> color and number of flashes, it's like figuring out what R2D2 is saying. >>>>>>> What's that R2? No link on port 3? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Simon Westlake >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 11:04 AM >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - bad dream >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've honestly given up completely on all residential routers, they >>>>>>> seem to be slowly converging on a common denominator which is that none >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> them work properly and only last a few months. I had to replace my >>>>>>> router >>>>>>> recently, and just got a Mikrotik instead. One of the guys I work with >>>>>>> just >>>>>>> replaced his old Linksys with a Mikrotik, and all of his minor problems >>>>>>> went away. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I used to think that it was a bad idea to provide managed routers to >>>>>>> end users, but I'm slowly changing my mind after realizing how many >>>>>>> issues >>>>>>> are caused by them. There's also a lot you could do to provide better >>>>>>> service to an end user, hypothetically.. let's say you put in a DD-WRT >>>>>>> or >>>>>>> Mikrotik router and setup some shaping on the client side with SFQ. >>>>>>> They'd probably see a lot less issues with their Netflix buffering >>>>>>> when their Xbox was downloading a game, or their VoIP cutting out when >>>>>>> they're watching Daredevil in 4K. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 1/1/2016 10:05 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >>>>>>> > I had a bad dream where all my customers go to Walmart and buy >>>>>>> Belkin >>>>>>> > routers. I tried to wake up but I wasn't dreaming. >>>>>>> Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!! >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Simon Westlake >>>>>>> Skype: Simon_Sonar >>>>>>> Email: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]'); >>>>>>> Phone: (702) 447-1247 >>>>>>> --------------------------- >>>>>>> Sonar Software Inc >>>>>>> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS https://sonar.software >>>>>>> >>>>>>>
