Yeah, it's just a low end router that runs a VPN tunnel that they have
access to.
On Jan 7, 2016 8:49 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Well, that is better than nothing.  Do they have specs on the magic box?
>
> *From:* Josh Reynolds <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 7:12 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>
>
> So, both the content providers we have been talking with (so we have all
> of our channel listing) will give us a handoff at 1102 Grand via HE
> directly into our router, but from there they are requiring a certain Cisco
> box basically running a VPN between there, over our leased fiber, into our
> NOC. It's beyond stupid.
>
> They are technological neophytes.
> On Jan 7, 2016 8:09 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I don’t think that the encrypted IP boxes are kosher with the content
>> providers.  I would be jumping for joy if that would pass muster.  I think
>> I am going to have to approach the problem head on.  If I can convince them
>> either in mass or one by one that their content is safe I think we can make
>> it work.
>>
>> Consider two situations:
>> 1)    Leased fiber transport to a nearby city with your headend like
>> riding on it.  TV downlink is on a VLAN
>> 2)    Leased fiber transport to a nearby city with your internet backbone
>> on it.  TV downlink is on a VPN.
>>
>> First is kosher second is forbidden.   Go figure.
>>
>> *From:* Josh Reynolds <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 6:55 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>>
>>
>> We are going through the same issue with another company right now. They
>> require encrypted IP "transport boxes" end to end over networks we don't
>> directly own (transport). It's insane.
>> On Jan 7, 2016 7:19 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> It can be easily.  It can touch a fairly large content delivery network,
>>> but that cuts into profit.
>>>
>>> *From:* Chris Fabien <[email protected]>
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 5:44 PM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>>>
>>>
>>> Is their headend in a datacenter or well connected to major networks
>>> already?  We have 2gigs of unused transport into 350 Cermak currently,
>>> wonder if it would be easy to get to from there.
>>> On Jan 7, 2016 6:26 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you are taking just the streams in use, it is about 5 mbps per
>>>> stream.
>>>> If you are taking the whole feed with an edge server at your site, it
>>>> is about 2 gbps full time.
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Chris Fabien <[email protected]>
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:25 PM
>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>>>>
>>>> How much transport is required and where in utah?
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes if you have very low cost transport to Utah, so that probably
>>>>> means no.
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Josh Corson <[email protected]>
>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:22 PM
>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>>>>>
>>>>> We are in Missouri...they are suppose to move customers in June
>>>>> 1st...do you think we will have the option to get this prior to then?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Right now they are in the midst of a headend move.
>>>>>> So far you will have to be able to get transport to their headend.
>>>>>> Turns out that the content providers are still unhappy with various
>>>>>> tunneling and VPN methods.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you are in Utah you can probably get the feed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Josh Corson
>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:15 PM
>>>>>> *To:* javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did anyone get any more info on this? We are about to go into an
>>>>>> apartment complex and they want us to offer TV service and was curious if
>>>>>> Realchoice has gotten back to anyone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 16, 2015, Chuck McCown <
>>>>>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* Erich Kaiser
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 16, 2015 5:56 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chuck,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Put me on the list
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Erich Kaiser
>>>>>>> North Central Tower
>>>>>>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');
>>>>>>> Office: 630-621-4804
>>>>>>> Cell: 630-777-9291
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Chuck McCown <
>>>>>>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah, I just threw it in their laps.  The wanted me to mediate with
>>>>>>>> the WISPs but they don’t move at the pace I am used to.
>>>>>>>> They have all your email addresses.  Hopefully you will get
>>>>>>>> something direct.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 16, 2015 2:59 PM
>>>>>>>> *To:* Animal Farm
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> " still awaiting? "       hum ,,,try this,
>>>>>>>> I am still waiting on a document from RealChoice before proceeding
>>>>>>>> with......
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ducking under my phone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>>>>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>>>>>>> 915-861-1390
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Chuck McCown <
>>>>>>>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Have not forgot about everyone.  Still awaiting a document from
>>>>>>>>> Realchoice before I can proceed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Josh Corson*
>>>>>> Operations Manager
>>>>>> BlueBit Networks
>>>>>> bluebitnetworks.com
>>>>>> o. 573.355.5381 c. 573.259.3073
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> *Josh Corson*
>>>>> Operations Manager
>>>>> BlueBit Networks
>>>>> bluebitnetworks.com
>>>>> o. 573.355.5381 c. 573.259.3073
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

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