If you want to take this off list, that is  fine.
I am keenly interested in which content providers are OK with a VPN tunnel.  

From: Josh Reynolds 
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 7:52 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

Yeah, it's just a low end router that runs a VPN tunnel that they have access 
to.

On Jan 7, 2016 8:49 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:

  Well, that is better than nothing.  Do they have specs on the magic box?

  From: Josh Reynolds 
  Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 7:12 PM
  To: [email protected] 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

  So, both the content providers we have been talking with (so we have all of 
our channel listing) will give us a handoff at 1102 Grand via HE directly into 
our router, but from there they are requiring a certain Cisco box basically 
running a VPN between there, over our leased fiber, into our NOC. It's beyond 
stupid.

  They are technological neophytes.

  On Jan 7, 2016 8:09 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:

    I don’t think that the encrypted IP boxes are kosher with the content 
providers.  I would be jumping for joy if that would pass muster.  I think I am 
going to have to approach the problem head on.  If I can convince them either 
in mass or one by one that their content is safe I think we can make it work.

    Consider two situations:
    1)    Leased fiber transport to a nearby city with your headend like riding 
on it.  TV downlink is on a VLAN
    2)    Leased fiber transport to a nearby city with your internet backbone 
on it.  TV downlink is on a VPN.

    First is kosher second is forbidden.   Go figure.  

    From: Josh Reynolds 
    Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 6:55 PM
    To: [email protected] 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

    We are going through the same issue with another company right now. They 
require encrypted IP "transport boxes" end to end over networks we don't 
directly own (transport). It's insane.

    On Jan 7, 2016 7:19 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:

      It can be easily.  It can touch a fairly large content delivery network, 
but that cuts into profit.  

      From: Chris Fabien 
      Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 5:44 PM
      To: [email protected] 
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

      Is their headend in a datacenter or well connected to major networks 
already?  We have 2gigs of unused transport into 350 Cermak currently, wonder 
if it would be easy to get to from there.

      On Jan 7, 2016 6:26 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:

        If you are taking just the streams in use, it is about 5 mbps per 
stream.
        If you are taking the whole feed with an edge server at your site, it 
is about 2 gbps full time.  

        From: Chris Fabien 
        Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:25 PM
        To: [email protected] 
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

        How much transport is required and where in utah?

        On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

          Yes if you have very low cost transport to Utah, so that probably 
means no.  

          From: Josh Corson 
          Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:22 PM
          To: [email protected] 
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

          We are in Missouri...they are suppose to move customers in June 
1st...do you think we will have the option to get this prior to then?

          On Thursday, January 7, 2016, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

            Right now they are in the midst of a headend move.
            So far you will have to be able to get transport to their headend.  
Turns out that the content providers are still unhappy with various tunneling 
and VPN methods. 

            If you are in Utah you can probably get the feed.   

            From: Josh Corson 
            Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:15 PM
            To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]'); 
            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

            Did anyone get any more info on this? We are about to go into an 
apartment complex and they want us to offer TV service and was curious if 
Realchoice has gotten back to anyone. 


            On Wednesday, December 16, 2015, Chuck McCown 
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> wrote:

              You are.

              From: Erich Kaiser 
              Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 5:56 PM
              To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]'); 
              Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

              Chuck, 

              Put me on the list

              Thanks!


              Erich Kaiser 
              North Central Tower
              javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');
              Office: 630-621-4804
              Cell: 630-777-9291



              On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Chuck McCown 
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> wrote:

                Yeah, I just threw it in their laps.  The wanted me to mediate 
with the WISPs but they don’t move at the pace I am used to.  
                They have all your email addresses.  Hopefully you will get 
something direct.  

                From: Jaime Solorza 
                Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 2:59 PM
                To: Animal Farm 
                Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

                " still awaiting? "       hum ,,,try this, 
                I am still waiting on a document from RealChoice before 
proceeding with......

                Ducking under my phone

                Jaime Solorza 
                Wireless Systems Architect
                915-861-1390

                On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Chuck McCown 
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> wrote:

                  Have not forgot about everyone.  Still awaiting a document 
from Realchoice before I can proceed.  




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            Josh Corson
            Operations Manager
            BlueBit Networks
            bluebitnetworks.com

            o. 573.355.5381 c. 573.259.3073



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          Josh Corson
          Operations Manager
          BlueBit Networks
          bluebitnetworks.com

          o. 573.355.5381 c. 573.259.3073

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