So if we could do it over a VPN tunnel (I know the content providers are
saying no to that at the moment), you could do it with almost no startup
costs, correct? In that case, you could potentially setup a system with,
say, 50 customers on it, and not require anything more than 100-200meg of
extra capacity on your upstreams - which would likely be somewhat offset by
a reduction in Netflix/streaming traffic.

On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 4:02 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yeah,  you can do just a per stream connection, so depending on how many
> people are streaming it could be much less than 2 gig.
>
> *From:* Mathew Howard <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Friday, January 08, 2016 2:50 PM
> *To:* af <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>
> 2-5meg is do-able over a decent wireless network... not a whole lot
> different than Neflix, really. Needing 2gbps to Utah is a problem though.
>
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> I have used Realchoice over a hotel wifi and it worked just as good as
>> Netflix.
>> Looked great to me.
>>
>> *From:* Tim Reichhart <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Friday, January 08, 2016 2:41 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>>
>>
>> The issue I am seeing right now is that it will not work over on wireless
>> ap to wireless cpe. The 2 companies I already spoken to said that: 1 its
>> going to cost about 100k to do with licensing and servers 2. always 2-5meg
>> connections and your going have to have at lease 2-3gb fiber connection
>> line to there office to do this.  Unless realchoice tv is able to do
>> something that is not going to cost 100k to start up. Its better suited to
>> be on dsl or fiber connection I dont think WISP's would be able to do iptv.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Paul Stewart" <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Date: 01/08/16 03:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>>
>>
>>
>> Very interesting. Thanks…
>>
>>
>>
>> Quite likely HLS using H265 - very cool stuff, quite "cutting edge"..
>>
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>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of* [email protected]
>> *Sent:* Friday, January 8, 2016 2:43 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>>
>>
>>
>> HLS is the only thing I know for certain.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Paul Stewart <[email protected]>
>>
>> *Sent:* Friday, January 8, 2016 10:01 AM
>>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>>
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>>
>> H.265 by chance or just H.264?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
>> Behalf Of* Chuck McCown
>> *Sent:* Friday, January 8, 2016 9:52 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, you only need a connection.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Paul Stewart <[email protected]>
>>
>> *Sent:* Friday, January 08, 2016 4:34 AM
>>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>>
>>
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>>
>> So the big attraction to them is that you don't need your own
>> middleware/encryption/channel guide etc and to develop the STB
>> application?  Just curious…
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
>> Behalf Of* Chuck McCown
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 7, 2016 10:30 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>>
>>
>>
>> It is wholesale IPTV but via Android and the Nexus box with app.
>>
>> The cool  thing is the ability to go back in time with the on screen
>> display tv guide.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Mike Hammett <[email protected]>
>>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 8:28 PM
>>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Are they doing anything special or just wholesale IPTV? There's already
>> at least one network doing wholesale IPTV in Cermak already.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* "Chris Fabien" <[email protected]>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 7, 2016 6:44:16 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>>
>> Is their headend in a datacenter or well connected to major networks
>> already?  We have 2gigs of unused transport into 350 Cermak currently,
>> wonder if it would be easy to get to from there.
>>
>> On Jan 7, 2016 6:26 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> If you are taking just the streams in use, it is about 5 mbps per stream.
>>
>> If you are taking the whole feed with an edge server at your site, it is
>> about 2 gbps full time.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Chris Fabien <[email protected]>
>>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:25 PM
>>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> How much transport is required and where in utah?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Yes if you have very low cost transport to Utah, so that probably means
>> no.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Josh Corson <[email protected]>
>>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:22 PM
>>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> We are in Missouri...they are suppose to move customers in June 1st...do
>> you think we will have the option to get this prior to then?
>>
>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Right now they are in the midst of a headend move.
>>
>> So far you will have to be able to get transport to their headend.  Turns
>> out that the content providers are still unhappy with various tunneling and
>> VPN methods.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you are in Utah you can probably get the feed.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Josh Corson
>>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:15 PM
>>
>> *To:* javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Did anyone get any more info on this? We are about to go into an
>> apartment complex and they want us to offer TV service and was curious if
>> Realchoice has gotten back to anyone.
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 16, 2015, Chuck McCown
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> wrote:
>>
>> You are.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Erich Kaiser
>>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 16, 2015 5:56 PM
>>
>> *To:* javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Chuck,
>>
>>
>>
>> Put me on the list
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Erich Kaiser
>>
>> North Central Tower
>>
>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');
>>
>> Office: 630-621-4804 <http://tel:630-621-4804/>
>>
>> Cell: 630-777-9291 <http://tel:630-777-9291/>
>>
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>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Chuck McCown
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, I just threw it in their laps.  The wanted me to mediate with the
>> WISPs but they don't move at the pace I am used to.
>>
>> They have all your email addresses.  Hopefully you will get something
>> direct.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 16, 2015 2:59 PM
>>
>> *To:* Animal Farm
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> " still awaiting? "       hum ,,,try this,
>>
>> I am still waiting on a document from RealChoice before proceeding
>> with......
>>
>>
>>
>> Ducking under my phone
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>
>> 915-861-1390 <http://tel:915-861-1390/>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Chuck McCown
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> wrote:
>>
>> Have not forgot about everyone.  Still awaiting a document from
>> Realchoice before I can proceed.
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>> --
>>
>> *Josh Corson*
>> Operations Manager
>> BlueBit Networks
>> bluebitnetworks.com
>>
>> o. 573.355.5381 <http://tel:573.355.5381/> c. 573.259.3073
>> <http://tel:573.259.3073/>
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>> --
>>
>> *Josh Corson*
>> Operations Manager
>> BlueBit Networks
>> bluebitnetworks.com
>>
>> o. 573.355.5381 <http://tel:573.355.5381/> c. 573.259.3073
>> <http://tel:573.259.3073/>
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