Agreed, but it seems like they research numbers / specs and bench testing -
once they get to the realities of deployment in the field and operating on
unlicensed frequencies things change.

On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 12:08 AM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Plans for 5G? Idk, but AT&T does do their research in most cases.
> On Jan 13, 2016 12:04 AM, "Jason McKemie" <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I don't see how they're going to get the density / throughput that they
>> expect, especially for a video play, using fixed wireless. The expectations
>> of someone like a WISP / smaller ISP and AT&T are very different things.
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 12, 2016, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Except they are looking to move their set top boxes for uverse over to
>>> this model.
>>> On Jan 12, 2016 10:56 PM, "Jason McKemie" <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Verizon did this around here years ago - didn't really fit the business
>>>> model they are used to.  Even if they did roll out with a large scale fixed
>>>> deployment they would still have fairly restrictive caps, which makes them
>>>> easy to compete with.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 8:30 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> They are also moving in the direction of fixed wireless. AT&T is
>>>>> testing this now.
>>>>> On Jan 12, 2016 8:20 PM, "Keefe John" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> when will we see 802.11  ax fixed wireless gear?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.extremetech.com/computing/184685-what-is-802-11ax-wifi-and-do-you-really-need-a-10gbps-connection-to-your-laptop
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/12/2016 8:05 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *nods* It'll affect you long before it affects most WISPs. It'll be
>>>>>> urban, then suburban, probably not rural.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> *From: *"Peter Kranz" <[email protected]>
>>>>>> *To: *[email protected]
>>>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 12, 2016 8:02:58 PM
>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile Deploying 5 GHz Yet?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess I agree with your assertion that LTE in unlicensed spectrum
>>>>>> will not be on high level cell towers, but you might want to look at this
>>>>>> presentation from one of the cell phone chipset vendors:
>>>>>> https://www.qualcomm.com/documents/making-best-use-unlicensed-spectrum-presentation
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Notice all the places they show LTE in Unlicensed Spectrum being
>>>>>> used. Imagine the effect if thousands of devices deployed in these
>>>>>> environments used the 5Ghz band, especially that supermarket scenario 
>>>>>> where
>>>>>> the sector is mounted outside the building.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is how they are going to share the spectrum fairly. Imagine the
>>>>>> fun with these pulsing interference sources. I.e. a jammer for 50ms on 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> then off.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>

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