I want one of those little heated tents the telcos use.  Or forget the heat, 
just a tent.  Except that might be bad in a 40mph wind.  Maybe an ice fishing 
shack on wheels.

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 1:51 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Terminating cable at the base of the tower

I did the same and got frost bite fingers in Ohio.  Where it's supposed to rain 
on Friday.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 2:48 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote:

  Yeah, I was literally crimping cables inside the box during a blizzard in 
Alaska. :) Those bison fab enclosures are big enough.

  On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 1:47 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> 
wrote:

    Few circles of slack before/after this box. 

    Internal space for working out of the elements?!?!?! I WISH!!!



    Josh Luthman
    Office: 937-552-2340
    Direct: 937-552-2343
    1100 Wayne St
    Suite 1337
    Troy, OH 45373


    On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote:

      True, but you also have no covered space once you open it up to work out 
of the elements, and no internal space for slack storage should you want to 
move an AP somewhere on the tower.

      *shrug*

      On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 1:44 PM, Josh Luthman 
<[email protected]> wrote:

        Enclosure + outdoors + SS + grounding lug



        Josh Luthman
        Office: 937-552-2340
        Direct: 937-552-2343
        1100 Wayne St
        Suite 1337
        Troy, OH 45373


        On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> 
wrote:

          LOL $500?

          I was using these: http://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=10039

          On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Josh Luthman 
<[email protected]> wrote:

            Another box between electronics and AP, that might be a good idea.  
What compression fittings? 

            If I do a patch panel/punch blocks it'll be with this: 
http://www.mccowntech.com/gige-twr-outdoor-tower-wall-mount-ethernet-surge-suppressor-protector/
  My concern would be if water did get in the line, would it ruin that box?



            Josh Luthman
            Office: 937-552-2340
            Direct: 937-552-2343
            1100 Wayne St
            Suite 1337
            Troy, OH 45373


            On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 2:18 PM, Josh Reynolds 
<[email protected]> wrote:

              Drew u a pic

              AP --------------------cat5--------------------compression 
fitting-----[box]-----service loop-----shielded patch 
panel-----[/box][conduit]--------------------[/conduit][shack]-----service 
loop-----shielded patch panel-----shielded patch cable-----switch/router

              On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Josh Luthman 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                Maybe another way to put it is after you terminate the run, 
what do you plug in to?  Going straight to RJ45ecs is a mess and going straight 
to the SS wouldn't be very cable management friendly and potentially ruin SS 
every time water finds it's way in, causing more problems.



                Josh Luthman
                Office: 937-552-2340
                Direct: 937-552-2343
                1100 Wayne St
                Suite 1337
                Troy, OH 45373


                On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Mike Hammett 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                  Why are you going into the connector? Terminate the cable and 
that's the end of it.


                  (Do you see what I did there?)   :-)




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                  Mike Hammett
                  Intelligent Computing Solutions
                  http://www.ics-il.com



                  Midwest Internet Exchange
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                  From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
                  To: [email protected]
                  Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 12:54:40 PM
                  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Terminating cable at the base of the 
tower 



                  Sure. 

                  I have a bunch of APs, BHs, cameras, etc on the tower with 
cat5/rj45.  Those come down the tower.  What do you terminate to?  How do you 
organize them?  I prefer terminating to rj45 and not a punch block, but maybe 
that would be better if the general consensus goes that way.

                  My problem now is that going into an rj45ecs is nearly 
impossible to open up when you can't get your fingers around all of it, so when 
there are many tightly done together you're screwed.


                  Josh Luthman
                  Office: 937-552-2340
                  Direct: 937-552-2343
                  1100 Wayne St
                  Suite 1337
                  Troy, OH 45373

                  On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 1:52 PM, Josh Reynolds 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                    I'm not sure I understand your question...

                    Can you explain things a bit better?


                    On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 12:50 PM, Josh Luthman
                    <[email protected]> wrote:
                    > We've been using RJ45ECS for a while but on sites with 
many (>6) aps this
                    > presents a problem if we need to get to the cable.  After 
some frost bite, I
                    > gave up and just cut the cable to reterminate it.  I'd 
like to have a better
                    > solution for 1 and many runs.
                    >
                    > What has worked for you guys when winter comes around and 
you need access to
                    > the cables?
                    >
                    > Josh Luthman
                    > Office: 937-552-2340
                    > Direct: 937-552-2343
                    > 1100 Wayne St
                    > Suite 1337
                    > Troy, OH 45373











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