We get to cuss out cambium and ubnt? Hell yes
On Jan 22, 2016 8:12 PM, "TJ Trout" <t...@voltbb.com> wrote:

> is a ccr1009 fast enough for full routes with 2 upsteams?
>
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 6:05 PM, George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:
>
>> I think I went in 2012, 2013 and 2014.
>>
>> The last time, I remember someone motherf***ing Cambium during Q&A.
>> Probably on the 450/FSK combo thing. And then I think someone told UBNT to
>> get their heads out of their asses.
>>
>> So I think a WISPA event is generally more friendly to the vendors. And
>> perhaps slightly hostile at such a technical event like AF.
>>
>>
>> On 1/22/2016 3:57 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>>
>> It does seem like half of the list is in northern/central Illinois...
>> actually, I fit into the category of being within a two hour drive of you
>> too. But... that doesn't seem like it was the case at all for actual Animal
>> Farm attendees... I can't remember running into any WISPs from Illinois
>> there, (I'm sure there were some, I obviously didn't talk to everyone
>> there).
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Over the past 200+ years, much of my family has worked on a farm into
>>> their 80s, passing sometime in their later 80s or  90s. I expect to be
>>> alive and able for another 50 - 60 years.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
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>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From: *"Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com>
>>> *To: *"af" <af@afmug.com>
>>> *Sent: *Friday, January 22, 2016 2:18:43 PM
>>>
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Single homed to multi, full partial or default
>>> route ?
>>>
>>> At first I read that as "I don't think I will get to that age" :P
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Mike Hammett < <af...@ics-il.net>
>>> af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't think I will at that age, Ken. Growing up on the farm (and I
>>>> still live there), almost everything we did ourselves. Partly due to cost,
>>>> partly to make sure it was done right, partly due to emergency nature, etc.
>>>> It's just kinda part of me.
>>>>
>>>> Are there any other parts of the country represented as well on AFMUG
>>>> as central\northern Illinois? It seems like half of the list is within a
>>>> two hour drive of me.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>> <http://www.ics-il.com>http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>>
>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>>>> <http://www.midwest-ix.com>http://www.midwest-ix.com
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From: *"Ken Hohhof" < <af...@kwisp.com>af...@kwisp.com>
>>>> *To: * <af@afmug.com>af@afmug.com
>>>> *Sent: *Friday, January 22, 2016 12:57:26 PM
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Single homed to multi, full partial or default
>>>> route ?
>>>>
>>>> When Mike is my age, he’ll be content to call the guy, not be the guy.
>>>> Especially at nap time.
>>>>
>>>> Not sure about Steve, after all, he is That One Guy, so who would he
>>>> call?  That Other Guy?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 22, 2016 12:49 PM
>>>> *To:* <af@afmug.com>af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Single homed to multi, full partial or default
>>>> route ?
>>>>
>>>> AF, Mike VS Ken, grudge match jousting competition, riding
>>>> unicorns..... AF is going to be so awesome net time around
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 12:21 PM, Chris Wright < <ch...@velociter.net>
>>>> ch...@velociter.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That is THE question, and it really depends on how well your router
>>>>> can handle taking in the full routing table while routing customer traffic
>>>>> at the same time. Weaker Mikrotik CCR’s like the 1009 seem sluggish, while
>>>>> the 1036 does alright. It’ll pull 500,000+ routes while passing traffic in
>>>>> about a minute.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris Wright
>>>>>
>>>>> Network Administrator
>>>>>
>>>>> Velociter Wireless
>>>>>
>>>>> 209-838-1221 x115 <209-838-1221%20x115>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto: <af-boun...@afmug.com>af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
>>>>> Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 22, 2016 8:13 AM
>>>>> *To:* <af@afmug.com>af@afmug.com
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Single homed to multi, full partial or default
>>>>> route ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dennis, does that help the time to be back up and routing traffic
>>>>> after a router reboot or loss of connectivity?  So you start using the
>>>>> default route as soon as you get it, and then get more specific as the
>>>>> routing table fills?  That’s something that I’ve heard horror stories
>>>>> about, taking like 15 minutes to be back up and running after a router
>>>>> reboot or a loss of connectivity to the BGP peer.  With a default route,
>>>>> I’m used to that being pretty much instantaneous.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Dennis Burgess <dmburg...@linktechs.net>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 22, 2016 9:52 AM
>>>>>
>>>>> *To:* <af@afmug.com>af@afmug.com
>>>>>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Single homed to multi, full partial or default
>>>>> route ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You have your upstream send default+full, you can discard what you
>>>>> don’t need, then if you need something, you don’t have to call them, just
>>>>> change your filters.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.
>>>>>
>>>>> <den...@linktechs.net>den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 –
>>>>> <http://www.linktechs.net/>www.linktechs.net
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Af [ <af-boun...@afmug.com>mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
>>>>> <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout
>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 21, 2016 8:15 PM
>>>>> *To:* <af@afmug.com>af@afmug.com
>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Single homed to multi, full partial or default
>>>>> route ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm a complete idiot and I just turned up 2 upstreams, butch Evans
>>>>> will be setting up the bgp, he said I can take full routes, partial router
>>>>> /20 and larger or default routes, anyone able to tell me the best choice
>>>>> and the pros and cons of each ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks a million
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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