Oh PuhLeeze. You think 24GHz is going to go through that?!?!

Come on!

bp
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On 1/28/2016 1:33 PM, Rory Conaway wrote:
People have trees in their yards.  Here is a PTP link we had to do with a 
B5-Lite instead of the AF24.


Rory

-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 2:24 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced

That.... doesn't make any sense :P

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 3:21 PM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]> wrote:
I live in the flippin desert and I struggle to get AF24’s to work on houses.



Rory



From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 12:18 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced



I could see Vivint making it work with LoS installations every few houses.



Not at scale in downtown Boston though.







From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 12:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced



I cannot understand now anyone that has worked in this space thinks 60
GHz is good for PMP.

Perhaps on the moon or in the sahara from a tower.



From: Rory Conaway

Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 11:58 AM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced



Vivint started off with a bunch of college guys telling them how easy
it was to build their own equipment and it went downhill from there.
Right now they are just floundering trying to figure out what to do
next.  They really don’t have a plan or a clue.  $50M dollars, poof.



Rory



From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 11:53 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced



I wonder if Vivint’s new 60GHz plans are based on similar “millimeter
wave band active phased array technology”



--

On September 21, 2015, the board of directors of the Company approved
a plan to transition Vivint’s wireless internet business from a 5Ghz
to a 60Ghz-based network technology that provides higher data
transmission speeds. The Company will continue to service its existing 5Ghz 
subscribers.
As a result of this transition, the Company will discontinue the
build-out of additional 5Ghz networks and the installation of new 5Ghz 
customers.
Vivint expects the shift to the new technology will begin with a set
of 60Ghz test installations in 2016.  During the three months ended
September 30, 2015, the Company recorded wireless internet-related
restructuring and asset impairment charges totaling $58.0 million.
These charges included
$52.1 million of asset impairment charges related to write downs of
network assets, subscriber acquisition costs, certain intellectual
property and goodwill. The $58 million charge also included $5.9
million in restructuring costs related to employee severance,
termination benefits and the write offs of certain vendor contracts.



http://s2.q4cdn.com/226156452/files/doc_financials/quarter/Q32015/APX-
Group-3rd-Quarter-2015-Earnings-Release-final.pdf







From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 11:30 AM
To: Animal Farm <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced



BFM Sterling BFM

On Jan 28, 2016 11:15 AM, "Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]> wrote:

Lol!



Boston.



I can’t see how this service is going to MIMO it’s way around all the
corners and buildings downtown to get at the window CPE’s at those
higher frequencies.



Maybe it’s magic, I don’t know.







From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 11:08 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced



Shall we start a pool, or maybe 7 of them?



Launch date.

First customers installed.

First news report of really unhappy customers.

First press release that they are making changes to the product.

Date CEO is fired.

Date Company shuts down operation for re-tooling.

Date Assets acquired by another company.



From: Paul McCall

Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 11:04 AM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced



The real play here is probably OPM, taking big $$ salaries until it
blows up J



From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 11:54 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced



That article almost makes you think the fancy router is the real play here.



Also, in case it wasn’t already posted, here is the FCC application:



https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/442_Print.cfm?mode=current&appl
ication_seq=69226&license_seq=69930







From: Travis Johnson

Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 10:37 AM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced



http://www.xconomy.com/new-york/2016/01/28/kanojia-returns-with-a-star
ry-plan-for-wireless-internet-smart-homes/

On 1/28/2016 9:13 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Also they filed an experimental application with the FCC.  So does
that mean they can’t charge users?





From: Ken Hohhof

Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 12:53 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced



I’m not sure licensed band equipment needs equipment approval filed
with the FCC.



From: Keefe John

Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 12:16 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced



are they making this equipment or someone else?  We should see
something on the FCC website...

On 1/27/2016 12:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

38 GHz I think.  It was discussed in another thread.





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On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Keefe John <[email protected]> wrote:

what band are they using?

On 1/27/2016 12:05 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

"That said, it comes with a 3.6-inch touchscreen and runs on Android,
going above and beyond simply facilitating a connection. Starry
Station includes software called the Internet Health Score, which is
constantly monitoring the connection and doing speed tests powered by
Ookla."

Oh FFS.

This shit is such a game to these people.

On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Gino Villarini <[email protected]>
wrote:

Here you go…


http://techcrunch.com/2016/01/27/starry-internet-is-aereo-founder-chet
-kanojias-latest-salvo-in-the-war-on-isps/









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