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Josh Luthman
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On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote:

> :P Yeah. 24GHz does *not* like obstructions. I'd even be nervous about
> putting a 5X there, or any 5ghz for that matter. 2.4... fine.
>
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Oh PuhLeeze. You think 24GHz is going to go through that?!?!
> >
> > Come on!
> >
> > bp
> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >
> >
> > On 1/28/2016 1:33 PM, Rory Conaway wrote:
> >>
> >> People have trees in their yards.  Here is a PTP link we had to do with
> a
> >> B5-Lite instead of the AF24.
> >>
> >>
> >> Rory
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
> >> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 2:24 PM
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced
> >>
> >> That.... doesn't make any sense :P
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 3:21 PM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I live in the flippin desert and I struggle to get AF24’s to work on
> >>> houses.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Rory
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
> >>> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 12:18 PM
> >>> To: [email protected]
> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I could see Vivint making it work with LoS installations every few
> >>> houses.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Not at scale in downtown Boston though.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
> >>> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 12:01 PM
> >>> To: [email protected]
> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I cannot understand now anyone that has worked in this space thinks 60
> >>> GHz is good for PMP.
> >>>
> >>> Perhaps on the moon or in the sahara from a tower.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Rory Conaway
> >>>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 11:58 AM
> >>>
> >>> To: [email protected]
> >>>
> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Vivint started off with a bunch of college guys telling them how easy
> >>> it was to build their own equipment and it went downhill from there.
> >>> Right now they are just floundering trying to figure out what to do
> >>> next.  They really don’t have a plan or a clue.  $50M dollars, poof.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Rory
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby
> >>> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 11:53 AM
> >>> To: [email protected]
> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I wonder if Vivint’s new 60GHz plans are based on similar “millimeter
> >>> wave band active phased array technology”
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> On September 21, 2015, the board of directors of the Company approved
> >>> a plan to transition Vivint’s wireless internet business from a 5Ghz
> >>> to a 60Ghz-based network technology that provides higher data
> >>> transmission speeds. The Company will continue to service its existing
> >>> 5Ghz subscribers.
> >>> As a result of this transition, the Company will discontinue the
> >>> build-out of additional 5Ghz networks and the installation of new 5Ghz
> >>> customers.
> >>> Vivint expects the shift to the new technology will begin with a set
> >>> of 60Ghz test installations in 2016.  During the three months ended
> >>> September 30, 2015, the Company recorded wireless internet-related
> >>> restructuring and asset impairment charges totaling $58.0 million.
> >>> These charges included
> >>> $52.1 million of asset impairment charges related to write downs of
> >>> network assets, subscriber acquisition costs, certain intellectual
> >>> property and goodwill. The $58 million charge also included $5.9
> >>> million in restructuring costs related to employee severance,
> >>> termination benefits and the write offs of certain vendor contracts.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> http://s2.q4cdn.com/226156452/files/doc_financials/quarter/Q32015/APX-
> >>> Group-3rd-Quarter-2015-Earnings-Release-final.pdf
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
> >>> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 11:30 AM
> >>> To: Animal Farm <[email protected]>
> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> BFM Sterling BFM
> >>>
> >>> On Jan 28, 2016 11:15 AM, "Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Lol!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Boston.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I can’t see how this service is going to MIMO it’s way around all the
> >>> corners and buildings downtown to get at the window CPE’s at those
> >>> higher frequencies.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Maybe it’s magic, I don’t know.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
> >>> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 11:08 AM
> >>> To: [email protected]
> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Shall we start a pool, or maybe 7 of them?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Launch date.
> >>>
> >>> First customers installed.
> >>>
> >>> First news report of really unhappy customers.
> >>>
> >>> First press release that they are making changes to the product.
> >>>
> >>> Date CEO is fired.
> >>>
> >>> Date Company shuts down operation for re-tooling.
> >>>
> >>> Date Assets acquired by another company.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Paul McCall
> >>>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 11:04 AM
> >>>
> >>> To: [email protected]
> >>>
> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The real play here is probably OPM, taking big $$ salaries until it
> >>> blows up J
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
> >>> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 11:54 AM
> >>> To: [email protected]
> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> That article almost makes you think the fancy router is the real play
> >>> here.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Also, in case it wasn’t already posted, here is the FCC application:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/442_Print.cfm?mode=current&appl
> >>> ication_seq=69226&license_seq=69930
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Travis Johnson
> >>>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 10:37 AM
> >>>
> >>> To: [email protected]
> >>>
> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> http://www.xconomy.com/new-york/2016/01/28/kanojia-returns-with-a-star
> >>> ry-plan-for-wireless-internet-smart-homes/
> >>>
> >>> On 1/28/2016 9:13 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Also they filed an experimental application with the FCC.  So does
> >>> that mean they can’t charge users?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Ken Hohhof
> >>>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 12:53 PM
> >>>
> >>> To: [email protected]
> >>>
> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I’m not sure licensed band equipment needs equipment approval filed
> >>> with the FCC.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Keefe John
> >>>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 12:16 PM
> >>>
> >>> To: [email protected]
> >>>
> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> are they making this equipment or someone else?  We should see
> >>> something on the FCC website...
> >>>
> >>> On 1/27/2016 12:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> >>>
> >>> 38 GHz I think.  It was discussed in another thread.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Josh Luthman
> >>> Office: 937-552-2340
> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >>> 1100 Wayne St
> >>> Suite 1337
> >>> Troy, OH 45373
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Keefe John <[email protected]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> what band are they using?
> >>>
> >>> On 1/27/2016 12:05 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
> >>>
> >>> "That said, it comes with a 3.6-inch touchscreen and runs on Android,
> >>> going above and beyond simply facilitating a connection. Starry
> >>> Station includes software called the Internet Health Score, which is
> >>> constantly monitoring the connection and doing speed tests powered by
> >>> Ookla."
> >>>
> >>> Oh FFS.
> >>>
> >>> This shit is such a game to these people.
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Gino Villarini <[email protected]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Here you go…
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> http://techcrunch.com/2016/01/27/starry-internet-is-aereo-founder-chet
> >>> -kanojias-latest-salvo-in-the-war-on-isps/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
>

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