If you're not doing one public per customer, do this: 

http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:IP/Firewall/NAT#Carrier-Grade_NAT_.28CGNAT.29_or_NAT444
 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




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From: "Jeremy" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 2:24:00 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DMCA Time Management Fee 


Just thinking out loud. It does take a lot of time, as we are using NAT 
heavily, and I have to track them each down with TCP dump based on their 
torrent port...I'll probably just keep our current policy of disconnect their 
service for one year. They can pay another installation fee at that time, but 
that will be their last chance, and then we will refuse to connect. 


On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Justin Wilson < [email protected] > wrote: 



The biggest thing I use in a determination is did they send it to the 
Registered Copyright Agent on file? You do have one correct? :-) 
http://copyright.gov/onlinesp/ 


If you have one, and it’s not sent to that agent, it’s not a real request IMHO. 







Justin Wilson 
[email protected] 


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xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth 


http://www.midwest-ix.com COO/Chairman 


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On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:34 PM, Josh Reynolds < [email protected] > wrote: 


It can't charge the copyright holder, but could it charge to company 
sending out the notices if they aren't the CRH? :) 

On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Keefe John < [email protected] > wrote: 

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This has been discussed before, the DMCA safe harbor doesn't allow the 
provider to charge the copyright holder for this. 

On 2/2/2016 12:03 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: 



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That's going to end up in a big mess of a lawsuit eventually. 

On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 12:03 PM, Sterling Jacobson < [email protected] > 
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Haha! 



If it’s against your AUP, make sure you have a clause in there that says 
you 
charge per incident. 



Then go ahead and charge the customer. 



Sounds like if you are just going to kick them off eventually, might as 
well 
try to keep them, but make it costly. 



If they don’t pay it, then they are off. 



Nothing legally wrong with it if its in your policy I think. 



From: Af [ mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm 
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 10:57 AM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DMCA Time Management Fee 



Oh wow, youre seriously looking for a fight with customers 



On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Jeremy < [email protected] > wrote: 

What do you thing about charging a fee every time that a customer gets a 
DMCA takedown notice. These notices take time to track down and follow 
up 
on. If we charged $20 every time it would make it not really worth it to 
pirate that $10 movie. I would think that it should be legal, so long as 
we 
add it to our customer agreement. Anyone ever thought about this? Right 
now we pass on 5 of them and then make them find a new provider. It 
seems 
like they would be less likely to hit 5 if they had to pay $20 for each 
one. 
We really don't want these guys on our network anyway, so no sweat if 
they 
just cancel. Is anyone out there charging customers a fee for these? I 
know most of you just ignore them, but we like passing them on, as it 
lowers 
our overall usage. 





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as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. 



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