What you basically just said is that WISPs can't lie about their
coverage areas despite 50% of the maps of the LECs, cablecos, and
larger WISPs being total bullshit.

Is that correct?

On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
> If you claim 100% coverage of a census block or tract and that prevents a
> telco from getting its welfare check, they will do drive testing of the
> whole thing.  It has already happened and will happen much more in the
> future as the FCC reduces the unsubsidized competitor coverage percentage
> that takes away their support.  Just sayin, claiming more turf than you
> truly serve or can serve in 7-10 days with 10 down and 1 up (soon to change
> to 25 down) can bring grief.  There is no upside to claiming more than you
> can do on a 477 turf wise or speed wise but there is a big downside.
>
> From: Cameron Crum
> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 8:10 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is using towercoverage.com?
>
> I'm not sure even areas as small as census blocks groups allow you to be
> surgically accurate.
>
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 8:28 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I would say that y’all better be getting surgically accurate on your 477
>> filings.  You do sign them under penalty of perjury and there will be telcos
>> challenging your coverage data.
>>
>> From: Dennis Burgess
>> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 7:07 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is using towercoverage.com?
>>
>>
>> We also do the Form 477, i.e. broadband deployment data as well as the
>> broadband sub data if your billing system don’t do that anyways.
>>
>>
>>
>> The new APIs allow almost limitless integration with other applications.
>> I.e. you can do a path profile using our data in about 200ms though the API.
>> Just a matter of the billing/powercode/visp/whatever programming it up ..
>>
>>
>>
>> Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.
>>
>> [email protected] – 314-735-0270 x103 – www.linktechs.net
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David
>> Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 8:03 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is using towercoverage.com?
>>
>>
>>
>> +1000
>> for this solution.. Unless you invest the time and effort to build a
>> custom solution like towercoverage I dont complain about the number of
>> customers it has brought to us and
>> the countless times it has saved us on truck rolls for invalid service.
>> Also, the EUS data alone is very helpful when determining new site
>> locations.
>> We have 4 new sites going up this year because of that data.
>> U-Verse is our only real competitor in a couple of these areas. If I could
>> only sell TV i would have it in the bag :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 02/03/2016 11:26 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>
>> It says it when you log in to towercoverage.com
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Feb 4, 2016 12:19 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hmmm.....news to me
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Reply message -----
>> From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [AFMUG] who is using towercoverage.com?
>> Date: Wed, Feb 3, 2016 10:22 PM
>>
>>
>>
>> Uh you can dude.  Been a while since they enabled that.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Feb 3, 2016 11:07 PM, "Jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> This.  So much this.  Powercode already has the azimuths, downtilt, gps
>> coordinates, and everything.  That should really be the next step is pulling
>> this info for integration.  I have had an active account for like a year and
>> have never used it.  I just don't have the time to add it all.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 8:29 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> suggestion - take our antenna plots directly from pokeycode, i mean
>> powercode, and automatically populate all our towers in towercoverage... :)
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Dennis Burgess
>>
>> To: [email protected]
>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 8:51 PM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] who is using towercoverage.com?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for all of the kind comments and suggestions.  The pricing is the
>> same as since its inception, we have a dedicated staff to answer questions
>> as well as take phone calls if you need assistance. Feel free to call or
>> e-mail.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.
>>
>> [email protected] – 314-735-0270 x103 – www.linktechs.net
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2016 5:31 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] who is using towercoverage.com?
>>
>>
>>
>> wow, the pricing is a whole lot more realistic than it used to be, still
>> expensive if you wanted to plot every antenna, but omni will get you the
>> gist of it. hopefully their support is better than a repetitive canned
>> response now
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> $25/mo is not much.  I strongly recommend signing up for it simply for the
>> EUS form.  If you get ONE customer out of the purchase, you made money.  Any
>> more than that is gravy.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Tim Reichhart
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Who on this list is using towercoverage.com? I want to know how accurate
>> it is because I have an account now with them and I am doubt its very
>> accurate to give out an good signal from my tower. Because I really hate
>> spending 25 dollars per month and its not going to be accurate.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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