So what happens now that broadband is 25/x and practically impossible to do
on US DSL networks?

On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 11:24 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yeahbut, the welfare check is tied to providing dial tone, but can be
> taken away by an unsubsidized broadband competitor overlapping the turf.
>
> *From:* Mike Hammett <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 04, 2016 10:14 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who is using towercoverage.com?
>
> A duty to serve...  phone...  not broadband.
>
>
>
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> *From: *"Chuck McCown" <[email protected]>
> *To: *[email protected]
> *Sent: *Thursday, February 4, 2016 11:08:56 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Who is using towercoverage.com?
>
> ILECs have their maps defined by the state regulators, so while their
> actual
> broadband coverage in their turf may be lacking the fact they have turf
> boundaries defined by the state, there is no argument.  They have a "duty
> to
> serve" as a common carrier.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Josh Reynolds
> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 9:10 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is using towercoverage.com?
>
> What you basically just said is that WISPs can't lie about their
> coverage areas despite 50% of the maps of the LECs, cablecos, and
> larger WISPs being total bullshit.
>
> Is that correct?
>
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
> > If you claim 100% coverage of a census block or tract and that prevents a
> > telco from getting its welfare check, they will do drive testing of the
> > whole thing.  It has already happened and will happen much more in the
> > future as the FCC reduces the unsubsidized competitor coverage percentage
> > that takes away their support.  Just sayin, claiming more turf than you
> > truly serve or can serve in 7-10 days with 10 down and 1 up (soon to
> > change
> > to 25 down) can bring grief.  There is no upside to claiming more than
> you
> > can do on a 477 turf wise or speed wise but there is a big downside.
> >
> > From: Cameron Crum
> > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 8:10 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is using towercoverage.com?
> >
> > I'm not sure even areas as small as census blocks groups allow you to be
> > surgically accurate.
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 8:28 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> I would say that y’all better be getting surgically accurate on your 477
> >> filings.  You do sign them under penalty of perjury and there will be
> >> telcos
> >> challenging your coverage data.
> >>
> >> From: Dennis Burgess
> >> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 7:07 AM
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is using towercoverage.com?
> >>
> >>
> >> We also do the Form 477, i.e. broadband deployment data as well as the
> >> broadband sub data if your billing system don’t do that anyways.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The new APIs allow almost limitless integration with other applications.
> >> I.e. you can do a path profile using our data in about 200ms though the
> >> API.
> >> Just a matter of the billing/powercode/visp/whatever programming it up
> ..
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.
> >>
> >> [email protected] – 314-735-0270 x103 – www.linktechs.net
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David
> >> Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 8:03 AM
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is using towercoverage.com?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> +1000
> >> for this solution.. Unless you invest the time and effort to build a
> >> custom solution like towercoverage I dont complain about the number of
> >> customers it has brought to us and
> >> the countless times it has saved us on truck rolls for invalid service.
> >> Also, the EUS data alone is very helpful when determining new site
> >> locations.
> >> We have 4 new sites going up this year because of that data.
> >> U-Verse is our only real competitor in a couple of these areas. If I
> >> could
> >> only sell TV i would have it in the bag :)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 02/03/2016 11:26 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> >>
> >> It says it when you log in to towercoverage.com
> >>
> >> Josh Luthman
> >> Office: 937-552-2340
> >> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >> 1100 Wayne St
> >> Suite 1337
> >> Troy, OH 45373
> >>
> >> On Feb 4, 2016 12:19 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hmmm.....news to me
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Reply message -----
> >> From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
> >> To: <[email protected]>
> >> Subject: [AFMUG] who is using towercoverage.com?
> >> Date: Wed, Feb 3, 2016 10:22 PM
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Uh you can dude.  Been a while since they enabled that.
> >>
> >> Josh Luthman
> >> Office: 937-552-2340
> >> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >> 1100 Wayne St
> >> Suite 1337
> >> Troy, OH 45373
> >>
> >> On Feb 3, 2016 11:07 PM, "Jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> This.  So much this.  Powercode already has the azimuths, downtilt, gps
> >> coordinates, and everything.  That should really be the next step is
> >> pulling
> >> this info for integration.  I have had an active account for like a
> year
> >> and
> >> have never used it.  I just don't have the time to add it all.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 8:29 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> suggestion - take our antenna plots directly from pokeycode, i mean
> >> powercode, and automatically populate all our towers in
> towercoverage...
> >> :)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >>
> >> From: Dennis Burgess
> >>
> >> To: [email protected]
> >>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 8:51 PM
> >>
> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] who is using towercoverage.com?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks for all of the kind comments and suggestions.  The pricing is the
> >> same as since its inception, we have a dedicated staff to answer
> >> questions
> >> as well as take phone calls if you need assistance. Feel free to call or
> >> e-mail.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.
> >>
> >> [email protected] – 314-735-0270 x103 – www.linktechs.net
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of That One Guy
> /sarcasm
> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2016 5:31 PM
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] who is using towercoverage.com?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> wow, the pricing is a whole lot more realistic than it used to be, still
> >> expensive if you wanted to plot every antenna, but omni will get you the
> >> gist of it. hopefully their support is better than a repetitive canned
> >> response now
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Josh Luthman
> >> <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> $25/mo is not much.  I strongly recommend signing up for it simply for
> >> the
> >> EUS form.  If you get ONE customer out of the purchase, you made money.
> >> Any
> >> more than that is gravy.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Josh Luthman
> >> Office: 937-552-2340
> >> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >> 1100 Wayne St
> >> Suite 1337
> >> Troy, OH 45373
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Tim Reichhart
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Who on this list is using towercoverage.com? I want to know how
> accurate
> >> it is because I have an account now with them and I am doubt its very
> >> accurate to give out an good signal from my tower. Because I really hate
> >> spending 25 dollars per month and its not going to be accurate.
> >>
> >> Tim
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> >> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>

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