Difficult/harder than WiFi.  You can set up the WiFi from your couch.
Doing a cable requires digging around through the back and the average
person assumes they're the same thing.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 12:35 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yes.  Sigh.
>
> But read this review which says 2 GB of RAM is limiting even for web
> browsing given the demands of modern websites:
>
> http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/01/review-hp-improves-its-200-laptop-a-lot-but-its-still-a-200-laptop/
>
> And computers seem to be going away, people expect to do all this stuff on
> their phones.  Of course most bandwidth is now used for video, and people
> are hooking up smart TVs and other dedicated video streaming devices.
>
> I really hate it that people buy a Roku or Apple TV or streaming stick and
> connect it via WiFi despite it being 2 feet from their router.  I have a
> Roku 2 and it’s connected with an Ethernet cable even though the router is
> in another room.  If people are spending so much time and money watching
> video over the Internet and complaining their Internet isn’t fast enough,
> why not give it the best chance and bypass WiFi with a $5 cable?
>
>
> *From:* Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Friday, February 05, 2016 11:15 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 100Gbps
>
> GOING to expect?  Have you not been dealing with customers' 802.11b
> Linksys routers not pulling 25 meg on their Windows 98 PC?
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Kind of scary when you realize SATA-3.0 transfer rate is 6 Gbps, SAS-3 is
>> 12 Gbps, SATA-3.2 is 16 Gbps.  And people are going to expect they can run
>> a speedtest from their iPad or Android with a low power CPU, on their dodgy
>> WiFi, and complain if they don't get the advertised Internet speed.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Nate Burke
>> Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 10:55 AM
>>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 100Gbps
>>
>> I have mixed feelings on it, I think that if you're pushing the
>> envelope, then you should pay for it.  But as the market meets demand,
>> prices should come down.  Remember back when 10/100 switches were
>> $1000?  Now, you can get a 24 Port 1G switch with 10G uplinks for, what,
>> $400?  In another 10 years, 100G will probably be the same.  Pickup a 24
>> Port 100G switch with 1TB uplinks for $200.
>>
>> Although at the same time, Throwing more Bandwidth at the problem just
>> makes for sloppier code.  Average webpage loads are now, what 5-6mb, for
>> really no more content.  Things used to be efficient, as it was the
>> programs responsibility for performance,  Now it's the clients
>> responsibility if things are slow (upgrade your PC, upgrade your internet)
>>
>> https://xkcd.com/1605/
>>
>> On 2/5/2016 10:34 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>>
>>> You tell them and they'll tell you how your capital expenses don't
>>> matter.
>>> In 1995 they decided that internet should be free and they'll never stop
>>> believing it.
>>>
>>> On 2/5/2016 10:04 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>
>>>> I cringe when people portray multi gigabit bandwidth as costing
>>>> pennies, as if the only cost is the fiber. Yeah, until you have to route
>>>> those packets, rather than just transporting a beam of light.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Faisal Imtiaz
>>>> Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 8:57 AM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 100Gbps
>>>>
>>>> It's not un-common to do 100Gpbs as follows:-
>>>>   Bonding 10x 10G circuits
>>>>   Bonding a combination of 40G circuits.
>>>>
>>>> providing 100G switched transport is easy.
>>>> Having a router, to do 100G transport is not,
>>>> Expect to pay approx $100k for a router (loaded ready to go, on the
>>>> 2ndary markets)
>>>>
>>>> Regards.
>>>>
>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>>>>
>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>
>>>>> From: "Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 1:01:09 AM
>>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] 100Gbps
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So... Let's just say, for a minute, that I could sell Adobe a 100Gbps
>>>>> line.
>>>>>
>>>>> What would that be priced at?
>>>>>
>>>>> I think I can do it technically with a pair of fiber I can get end to
>>>>> end.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are their LD optics at 100Gbps yet?
>>>>>
>>>>> Or are we still talking dense wave multiplexing?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
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