And none of the 'Stick' Devices come with a Port, Chromecast actually has an Adapter avialabe, I don't know if the firestick does or not.

On 2/5/2016 11:38 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Difficult/harder than WiFi. You can set up the WiFi from your couch. Doing a cable requires digging around through the back and the average person assumes they're the same thing.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 12:35 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Yes.  Sigh.
    But read this review which says 2 GB of RAM is limiting even for
    web browsing given the demands of modern websites:
    
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/01/review-hp-improves-its-200-laptop-a-lot-but-its-still-a-200-laptop/
    And computers seem to be going away, people expect to do all this
    stuff on their phones.  Of course most bandwidth is now used for
    video, and people are hooking up smart TVs and other dedicated
    video streaming devices.
    I really hate it that people buy a Roku or Apple TV or streaming
    stick and connect it via WiFi despite it being 2 feet from their
    router.  I have a Roku 2 and it’s connected with an Ethernet cable
    even though the router is in another room.  If people are spending
    so much time and money watching video over the Internet and
    complaining their Internet isn’t fast enough, why not give it the
    best chance and bypass WiFi with a $5 cable?
    *From:* Josh Luthman <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Sent:* Friday, February 05, 2016 11:15 AM
    *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 100Gbps
    GOING to expect?  Have you not been dealing with customers'
    802.11b Linksys routers not pulling 25 meg on their Windows 98 PC?
    Josh Luthman
    Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
    Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
    1100 Wayne St
    Suite 1337
    Troy, OH 45373
    On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Kind of scary when you realize SATA-3.0 transfer rate is 6
        Gbps, SAS-3 is 12 Gbps, SATA-3.2 is 16 Gbps.  And people are
        going to expect they can run a speedtest from their iPad or
        Android with a low power CPU, on their dodgy WiFi, and
        complain if they don't get the advertised Internet speed.


        -----Original Message----- From: Nate Burke
        Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 10:55 AM

        To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 100Gbps

        I have mixed feelings on it, I think that if you're pushing the
        envelope, then you should pay for it. But as the market meets
        demand,
        prices should come down.  Remember back when 10/100 switches were
        $1000?  Now, you can get a 24 Port 1G switch with 10G uplinks
        for, what,
$400? In another 10 years, 100G will probably be the same. Pickup a 24
        Port 100G switch with 1TB uplinks for $200.

        Although at the same time, Throwing more Bandwidth at the
        problem just
        makes for sloppier code.  Average webpage loads are now, what
        5-6mb, for
        really no more content.  Things used to be efficient, as it
        was the
        programs responsibility for performance,  Now it's the clients
        responsibility if things are slow (upgrade your PC, upgrade
        your internet)

        https://xkcd.com/1605/

        On 2/5/2016 10:34 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

            You tell them and they'll tell you how your capital
            expenses don't matter.
            In 1995 they decided that internet should be free and
            they'll never stop believing it.

            On 2/5/2016 10:04 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

                I cringe when people portray multi gigabit bandwidth
                as costing pennies, as if the only cost is the fiber.
                Yeah, until you have to route those packets, rather
                than just transporting a beam of light.


                -----Original Message----- From: Faisal Imtiaz
                Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 8:57 AM
                To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 100Gbps

                It's not un-common to do 100Gpbs as follows:-
                  Bonding 10x 10G circuits
                  Bonding a combination of 40G circuits.

                providing 100G switched transport is easy.
                Having a router, to do 100G transport is not,
                Expect to pay approx $100k for a router (loaded ready
                to go, on the 2ndary markets)

                Regards.

                Faisal Imtiaz
                Snappy Internet & Telecom
                7266 SW 48 Street
                Miami, FL 33155
                Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232>

                Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <tel:%28305%29663-5518>
                Option 2 or Email: [email protected]

                ----- Original Message -----

                    From: "Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]
                    <mailto:[email protected]>>
                    To: "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>"
                    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
                    Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 1:01:09 AM
                    Subject: [AFMUG] 100Gbps


                    So... Let's just say, for a minute, that I could
                    sell Adobe a 100Gbps line.

                    What would that be priced at?

                    I think I can do it technically with a pair of
                    fiber I can get end to end.

                    Are their LD optics at 100Gbps yet?

                    Or are we still talking dense wave multiplexing?







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