Lol! OpenFlow should kill off the Ciscos eventually, then we’ll just all get the same hardware from the same manufacturing plants in China and load our own software on it that will be way better.
From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George Skorup Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 6:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 100Gbps Every Cisco guy I talk to says Mini GBIC, not SFP. That's the way they're taught. It's brainwashing. I was going to go for CCNA and maybe CCNP, but 1) I have too much shit to do, and 2) fuck Cisco. On 2/5/2016 7:28 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: This. Cisco has caused a lot of very bad habits and problems in the networking industry, this is just one of many. Their dislike of WISPs was the final straw for me though. On Feb 5, 2016 7:23 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: The MSA group that created the standard for the SFP defined it as "small form factor pluggable". I've only ever seen Cisco proprietary things call it a mini gbic, which just causes confusion. On Feb 5, 2016 5:20 PM, "George Skorup" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: S(mall)FP = Mini GBIC = gigabit interface converter = generic term now. Thank Cisco for that. On 2/5/2016 7:04 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: There was no such thing as an sfp when the 3550-12 was created. Twelve GBIC. On Feb 5, 2016 12:42 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Gbic or sfp? Two different things. On Feb 5, 2016 2:26 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Remember when a Cisco 3550-48 with EMI software was $3000... Now I get them for free, the 3550-12 gbic version for $20. On Feb 5, 2016 9:22 AM, "Travis Johnson" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I remember when we bought some of our first Intel 10/100 switches... they were $2,400 each and we bought three of them for our NOC backbone. Travis On 2/5/2016 9:55 AM, Nate Burke wrote: I have mixed feelings on it, I think that if you're pushing the envelope, then you should pay for it. But as the market meets demand, prices should come down. Remember back when 10/100 switches were $1000? Now, you can get a 24 Port 1G switch with 10G uplinks for, what, $400? In another 10 years, 100G will probably be the same. Pickup a 24 Port 100G switch with 1TB uplinks for $200. Although at the same time, Throwing more Bandwidth at the problem just makes for sloppier code. Average webpage loads are now, what 5-6mb, for really no more content. Things used to be efficient, as it was the programs responsibility for performance, Now it's the clients responsibility if things are slow (upgrade your PC, upgrade your internet) https://xkcd.com/1605/ On 2/5/2016 10:34 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: You tell them and they'll tell you how your capital expenses don't matter. In 1995 they decided that internet should be free and they'll never stop believing it. On 2/5/2016 10:04 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I cringe when people portray multi gigabit bandwidth as costing pennies, as if the only cost is the fiber. Yeah, until you have to route those packets, rather than just transporting a beam of light. -----Original Message----- From: Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 8:57 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 100Gbps It's not un-common to do 100Gpbs as follows:- Bonding 10x 10G circuits Bonding a combination of 40G circuits. providing 100G switched transport is easy. Having a router, to do 100G transport is not, Expect to pay approx $100k for a router (loaded ready to go, on the 2ndary markets) Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232<tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232> Help-desk: (305)663-5518<tel:%28305%29663-5518> Option 2 or Email: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 1:01:09 AM Subject: [AFMUG] 100Gbps So... Let's just say, for a minute, that I could sell Adobe a 100Gbps line. What would that be priced at? I think I can do it technically with a pair of fiber I can get end to end. Are their LD optics at 100Gbps yet? Or are we still talking dense wave multiplexing?
