Every Cisco guy I talk to says Mini GBIC, not SFP. That's the way they're taught. It's brainwashing.

I was going to go for CCNA and maybe CCNP, but 1) I have too much shit to do, and 2) fuck Cisco.

On 2/5/2016 7:28 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

This.

Cisco has caused a lot of very bad habits and problems in the networking industry, this is just one of many.

Their dislike of WISPs was the final straw for me though.

On Feb 5, 2016 7:23 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    The MSA group that created the standard for the SFP defined it as
    "small form factor pluggable".

    I've only ever seen Cisco proprietary things call it a mini gbic,
    which just causes confusion.

    On Feb 5, 2016 5:20 PM, "George Skorup" <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        S(mall)FP = Mini GBIC = gigabit interface converter = generic
        term now. Thank Cisco for that.

        On 2/5/2016 7:04 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:

        There was no such thing as an sfp when the 3550-12 was
        created. Twelve GBIC.

        On Feb 5, 2016 12:42 PM, "Josh Reynolds"
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            Gbic or sfp? Two different things.

            On Feb 5, 2016 2:26 PM, "Eric Kuhnke"
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                Remember when a Cisco 3550-48 with EMI software was
                $3000...  Now I get them for free, the 3550-12 gbic
                version for $20.

                On Feb 5, 2016 9:22 AM, "Travis Johnson"
                <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                    I remember when we bought some of our first Intel
                    10/100 switches... they were $2,400 each and we
                    bought three of them for our NOC backbone.

                    Travis


                    On 2/5/2016 9:55 AM, Nate Burke wrote:

                        I have mixed feelings on it, I think that if
                        you're pushing the envelope, then you should
                        pay for it.  But as the market meets demand,
                        prices should come down. Remember back when
                        10/100 switches were $1000?  Now, you can get
                        a 24 Port 1G switch with 10G uplinks for,
                        what, $400?  In another 10 years, 100G will
                        probably be the same.  Pickup a 24 Port 100G
                        switch with 1TB uplinks for $200.

                        Although at the same time, Throwing more
                        Bandwidth at the problem just makes for
                        sloppier code.  Average webpage loads are
now, what 5-6mb, for really no more content. Things used to be efficient, as it was the
                        programs responsibility for performance,  Now
                        it's the clients responsibility if things are
                        slow (upgrade your PC, upgrade your internet)

                        https://xkcd.com/1605/

                        On 2/5/2016 10:34 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

                            You tell them and they'll tell you how
                            your capital expenses don't matter.
                            In 1995 they decided that internet should
                            be free and they'll never stop believing it.

                            On 2/5/2016 10:04 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

                                I cringe when people portray multi
                                gigabit bandwidth as costing pennies,
                                as if the only cost is the fiber.
                                Yeah, until you have to route those
                                packets, rather than just
                                transporting a beam of light.


                                -----Original Message----- From:
                                Faisal Imtiaz
                                Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 8:57 AM
                                To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                                Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 100Gbps

                                It's not un-common to do 100Gpbs as
                                follows:-
                                  Bonding 10x 10G circuits
                                  Bonding a combination of 40G circuits.

                                providing 100G switched transport is
                                easy.
                                Having a router, to do 100G transport
                                is not,
                                Expect to pay approx $100k for a
                                router (loaded ready to go, on the
                                2ndary markets)

                                Regards.

                                Faisal Imtiaz
                                Snappy Internet & Telecom
                                7266 SW 48 Street
                                Miami, FL 33155
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                                ----- Original Message -----

                                    From: "Sterling Jacobson"
                                    <[email protected]
                                    <mailto:[email protected]>>
                                    To: "[email protected]
                                    <mailto:[email protected]>"
                                    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
                                    Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016
                                    1:01:09 AM
                                    Subject: [AFMUG] 100Gbps


                                    So... Let's just say, for a
                                    minute, that I could sell Adobe a
                                    100Gbps line.

                                    What would that be priced at?

                                    I think I can do it technically
                                    with a pair of fiber I can get
                                    end to end.

                                    Are their LD optics at 100Gbps yet?

                                    Or are we still talking dense
                                    wave multiplexing?








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