Seems a very strange bug.  Could the power from the Netonix be unstable and 
fooling the APs into thinking they are getting power port sync?

Isn’t there a telnet command to disable individual sync sources, maybe disable 
power port sync if you’re not using it?

But you said that power cycling the Syncbox makes the weird behavior go away?  
Hmmmmmmmmm.

Does the Syncbox have its own power, or is it parasitic on the feed to one of 
the APs?  If you have a Netonix, I’m going to guess you are using a dedicated 
port on it to power the Syncbox?


From: Craig House 
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 3:49 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sync box 12's losing sync

I see what you mean now.  I didn't even notice that it is showing power port.  
Must be a bug because there is no other sync source.  They have to be getting 
sync from timing and all the AP's are doing the same thing

Craig



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From: "Craig House" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 3:48:41 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sync box 12's losing sync


Netonix.   I have them setup this way in about 25 locations.  Only 2 or 3 are 
having this issue


Craig



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From: "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 3:46:46 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sync box 12's losing sync


?????????????

Syncbox is timing port sync.  What are you powering these from?

From: Craig House 
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 3:37 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sync box 12's losing sync

I have checked the GPS statistics screen and the number of tracked and the 
number of visible birds are changing.  Staying around 10 visible and 7-8 
tracked.  Seems normal but the event log shows the following on all AP's 
feeding from it.

FPGA Features : DES, Sched, US/ETSI;
02/16/2016 : 20:03:09 UTC : :Time Set
02/16/2016 : 20:03:10 UTC : Acquired sync pulse from Power Port.
02/16/2016 : 20:03:21 UTC : Lost sync pulse from Power Port.
02/16/2016 : 20:03:23 UTC : Acquired sync pulse from Power Port.
02/16/2016 : 20:03:26 UTC : Lost sync pulse from Power Port.
02/16/2016 : 20:03:28 UTC : Acquired sync pulse from Power Port.
02/16/2016 : 20:03:30 UTC : Lost sync pulse from Power Port.
02/16/2016 : 20:03:32 UTC : Acquired sync pulse from Power Port.
02/16/2016 : 20:03:35 UTC : Lost sync pulse from Power Port.
02/16/2016 : 20:03:37 UTC : Acquired sync pulse from Power Port.
02/16/2016 : 20:03:39 UTC : Lost sync pulse from Power Port.
02/16/2016 : 20:03:41 UTC : Acquired sync pulse from Power Port.
02/16/2016 : 20:03:44 UTC : Lost sync pulse from Power Port.
02/16/2016 : 20:03:46 UTC : Acquired sync pulse from Power Port.
02/16/2016 : 20:03:48 UTC : Lost sync pulse from Power Port.
02/16/2016 : 20:03:50 UTC : Acquired sync pulse from Power Port.
02/16/2016 : 20:03:53 UTC : Lost sync pulse from Power Port.
02/16/2016 : 20:03:55 UTC : Acquired sync pulse from Power Port.
02/16/2016 : 20:03:57 UTC : Lost sync pulse from Power Port.
02/16/2016 : 20:03:59 UTC : Acquired sync pulse from Power Port.
02/16/2016 : 20:04:02 UTC : Lost sync pulse from Power Port.
02/16/2016 : 20:04:02 UTC : :GPS Date/Time Set;
02/16/2016 : 20:04:04 UTC : Acquired sync pulse from Power Port.
02/16/2016 : 20:04:06 UTC : Lost sync pulse from Power Port.
02/16/2016 : 20:04:08 UTC : Acquired sync pulse from Power Port.
02/16/2016 : 20:04:11 UTC : Lost sync pulse from Power Port.
02/16/2016 : 20:04:13 UTC : Acquired sync pulse from Power Port.
02/16/2016 : 20:04:15 UTC : Lost sync pulse from Power Port.
02/16/2016 : 20:04:17 UTC : Acquired sync pulse from Power Port.
02/16/2016 : 20:04:20 UTC : Lost sync pulse from Power Port.
02/16/2016 : 20:04:22 UTC : Acquired sync pulse from Power Port.
02/16/2016 : 20:04:24 UTC : Lost sync pulse from Power Port.
02/16/2016 : 20:04:26 UTC : Acquired sync pulse from Power Port.
02/16/2016 : 20:04:29 UTC : Lost sync pulse from Power Port.
02/16/2016 : 20:04:31 UTC : Acquired sync pulse from Power Port.


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From: "Forrest Christian (List Account)" <[email protected]>
To: "af" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 10:07:28 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sync box 12's losing sync


The only issues I've heard like this are specifically related to mounting in a 
bad location, and then the problem seems to come and go just like you expect. 

The units don't really have firmware on the unit itself,  only in the GPS 
module,  and I can honestly say we've never had to update a module in the 
field.    I don't even know how to make that happen at this point other than it 
can be done.    The modules come from the factory with our preloaded firmware, 
which never changes unless we switch modules, which has happened once,  the 
last time being at least a year ago. 

One caveat is that the newest syncboxes have been modified to work with the 
450i.  So the radio driving electronics are slightly different, even though the 
firmware is the same.   This only is relevant to units shipped in the last 
month or so.  

If you can come up with the serial numbers of affected units that might help in 
case something happened to a batch here  (like some undetected bad modules from 
our supplier)

The other thing to look at is if the status screen is really updating on the 
radios.   If the gps module doesn't supply data,  the screen stays the same. 

On Feb 15, 2016 7:26 PM, "Craig House" <[email protected]> wrote:

  We have been deploying sync box 12 units with Netonix switches for the last 
6-9 months with great success.  However, several of the syncbox12's we have 
deployed seem to loose and acquire sync repeatedly until they are power cycled. 
 This affects all the customers on the tower during that time.   Is there a 
firmware version that fixes this?  I'm not sure how to even update firmware on 
a syncbox?  The Sync status tab always shows that the device is tracking 10 or 
so satellites but the device is not passing sync on.  In some other 
installations we have out there they have never had any issues.  It seems to be 
several that were deployed about the same time that are doing this but I cant 
swear to it.  Forrest?? is there an easy fix to this or have you heard about 
this from anyone else?


  Craig



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