It's probably a sync protocol.  I'm guessing they copied the Rocket M2 GPS.

*ducks*


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On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 8:22 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

> At least Bluetooth will work better if you have no 2.4 GHz WiFi in the
> house.
>
> I discovered yesterday I had to disable “Bluetooth Collaboration” on the
> WiFi card in a new laptop for it to even pair with a Bluetooth mouse.  That
> seems counter intuitive.  Seems like a collaboration feature should make
> them play nice, not fight to the death.
>
>
> *From:* Rory Conaway <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 7:16 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz
>
>
> I understand guys.  I’ll work it out when I figure out what my radios are.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 6:15 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz
>
>
>
> Also trying to get a good signal in the far reaches of some houses can be
> a lot more challenging at 5 GHz than 2.4 GHz.
>
>
>
> *From:* Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]>
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 7:03 PM
>
> *To:* [email protected]
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz
>
>
>
> Until customers complain their stuff doesn't work, a lot of cheap laptops,
> tablets and many low to mid range android phones are 2.4 only.
>
> On Feb 17, 2016 4:55 PM, "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> If I do this, I’ll probably use 5Ghz for the indoor devices to avoid
> 2.4GHz where possible.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 5:15 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz
>
>
>
> I should add that in a typical environment with wood frame houses/other
> structures, it helps a lot to choose the 2.4 GHz channel on the home WiFi
> AP for each CPE location, so that none of them overlap with your carefully
> predetermined 10 MHz channel.
>
> On Feb 17, 2016 3:50 PM, "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I may set up a test for this in couple weeks.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 4:41 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz
>
>
>
> 2.4 in 10 MHz channels goes through a decent amount of trees within 1-2
> miles max, if all the CPEs are nanobridge m5-25 dishes or similar sized
> reflectors...
>
> I've seen such setups with clients in trees and signals right around -69
> on both chains.
>
> Not a lot of aggregate capacity per sector however.
>
> On Feb 17, 2016 2:13 PM, "Sean Heskett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I've never had any luck with 2.4 going through much more than the side of
> an aspen tree.
>
>
>
> can you set up some 900 test shots?
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> So given this scenario, would 2.4GHz be better?  I can use 5GHz inside the
> houses.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 2:57 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz
>
>
>
> I have not measured one, but if someone has a pine tree nearby and an ohm
> meter, measure the resistance of the needle.  Make sure you jam the probe
> into the interior of the thing.
>
>
>
> I am guessing that the water content of the needle absorbs some of the RF
> energy al la a microwave oven.  But anecdotal evidence over the past 10-15
> years has shown that pine trees are worse than others so if the needle
> itself has a fairly low resistance, like 100 ohms, it is acting like a
> dipole with a termination resistor.  That is really going to suck up the
> signal.
>
>
>
> Stealth aircraft have microwave absorbing foam on some of their surfaces
> that operate by similar principles.
>
>
>
> *From:* Sean Heskett <[email protected]>
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 2:13 PM
>
> *To:* [email protected]
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz
>
>
>
> the wavelength of 900Mhz is ~33.3cm so a quarter wave length is ~8.33cm
> (~3 1/4 inch).  Ponderosa pine needles (and many other pine needles) are
> around the same 3 1/4 inch length
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinus_ponderosa
>
>
>
> so with water in the needles you have a big 900Mhz RF scattering/reflector
> ;-)
>
>
>
> -Sean
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 1:47 PM, Sam Lambie <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> So if you have a minute to please explain how evergreen trees are terrible
> on 900 mhz, I would greatly appreciate it.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Ponderosa?  Fir?  Cedar?
>
>
>
> The length of the needles matter.
>
>
>
> *From:* Rory Conaway <[email protected]>
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 12:51 PM
>
> *To:* [email protected]
>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz
>
>
>
> Realistically, what kind of distances do you get through these types of
> trees?
>
>
>
>
>
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