I never thought of measuring one but Im game. Ill get pics :)


On 2/17/2016 3:57 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I have not measured one, but if someone has a pine tree nearby and an ohm meter, measure the resistance of the needle. Make sure you jam the probe into the interior of the thing. I am guessing that the water content of the needle absorbs some of the RF energy al la a microwave oven. But anecdotal evidence over the past 10-15 years has shown that pine trees are worse than others so if the needle itself has a fairly low resistance, like 100 ohms, it is acting like a dipole with a termination resistor. That is really going to suck up the signal. Stealth aircraft have microwave absorbing foam on some of their surfaces that operate by similar principles.
*From:* Sean Heskett <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 2:13 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz
the wavelength of 900Mhz is ~33.3cm so a quarter wave length is ~8.33cm (~3 1/4 inch). Ponderosa pine needles (and many other pine needles) are around the same 3 1/4 inch length https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinus_ponderosa so with water in the needles you have a big 900Mhz RF scattering/reflector ;-)
-Sean
On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 1:47 PM, Sam Lambie <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    So if you have a minute to please explain how evergreen trees are
    terrible on 900 mhz, I would greatly appreciate it.
    On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Ponderosa?  Fir?  Cedar?
        The length of the needles matter.
        *From:* Rory Conaway <mailto:[email protected]>
        *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 12:51 PM
        *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        *Subject:* [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

        Realistically, what kind of distances do you get through these
        types of trees?

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