Funny... at meeting last week I attended where XG dude spoke, the HAM club members were in 70s and White. When ex Col. Coleman spoke about security some of these guys said ISIS had training camp in Chihuahua! Ha...right out wacko right wing talk shows. I was taught to respect my elders so I just listened. On Feb 19, 2016 8:36 AM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Something that has struck me working with some local ham radio clubs is > not all of these guys know what they are talking about, or follow all the > rules, especially when it comes to things like WiFi. They love cheap shiny > crap like everyone else. At first some of them were kind of arrogant, but > I think when they realize WISPs really are RF experts they get down off > their high horse and learn a few things from us. (Like a Rocket with an > omni isn’t the best way to provide WiFi at an outdoor event, and there are > better ways to feed it than piping your cellular modem into a Linksys > router.) > > Ham radio also has a generation problem, they are mostly old white guys > with a few younger guys thrown in. Very few millennials and not a very > diverse bunch. Ham radio is being made obsolete by the Internet, which > lets you do a lot of the same things like contacting people in other > countries. We can help them branch out into using the Internet in their > hobby and being relevant to the next generation. > > > *From:* Lewis Bergman <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Friday, February 19, 2016 7:55 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] HAMSs and Internet > > > I am still curious on why anyone thinks they deserve free stuff because > they belong to a club. I belong to the club of "I don't want to pay for > anything". I know, they supposedly have a public emergency benefit. I > haven't ever seen them be anything more than a murderer in those situations > but maybe we just have a bunch of HAM dorks around here. > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2016, 7:27 AM Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I see a bunch of different states listed, so it may be used as the hub, >> but I'm not familiar with the software. >> >> https://www.yaesu.com/jp/en/wires-x/index.php >> >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Jerry Head" <[email protected]> >> *To: *[email protected] >> *Sent: *Friday, February 19, 2016 7:20:56 AM >> >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] HAMSs and Internet >> >> Hmm he sent a few pictures, does this look like a conference server? >> >> >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/lm7yqdblb6mri0l/Screenshot%202016-02-19%2007.16.28.png?dl=0 >> >> >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/e2u283gy05fgt9i/Screenshot%202016-02-19%2007.18.23.png?dl=0 >> >> >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/51jov0xxmybov37/Screenshot%202016-02-19%2007.19.32.png?dl=0 >> >> I have not applied the Google to research that device in the third >> picture...yet. >> >> >> On 2/19/2016 12:59 AM, Brian Webster wrote: >> > Unless they are trying to host a voice repeater conference server they >> do not need anywhere near that kind of bandwidth. A conference server would >> host multiple connects all at the same time, if they needed 500k per >> connection that would add up. I would not let them host a conference server >> on your wireless network, that stuff is better placed in big data centers. >> > >> > I am an amateur radio operator and have data and voice networks I >> maintain for the clubs locally. Honestly 1 to 3 meg is more than enough for >> what they will need. Anything more than that and they will likely be doing >> things that they should be paying for on your network. They may be trying >> to do some live video stuff but you don't need to shoulder that burden, >> they can do live TV broadcasts on spectrum they have available, not as easy >> to do as IP cams and Ethernet but they can do it. >> > >> > If you have the tower space you might consider offering them places to >> put their own links if all they need is bandwidth between sites. There are >> amateur radio spectrum allocations in the 3.3 GHz band as well as 5.9 GHz, >> and I am pretty sure they can load international firmware and run their own >> links on MicroTik or Ubiquiti radios. This would keep the traffic off your >> network and possibly discourage them from putting up links legally licensed >> in the bands you are using for your business. Technically they have >> licensed rights and could knock you off the air. Best not to start that >> war, they can operate in the 900, 2.4 and 5 GHz bands legally at much >> higher power. If you can get them off on to the spectrum that does not >> overlap the unlicensed bands everyone wins. They also have their own IPv4 >> space available (ampr.org). >> > >> > Feel free to hit me up off list and/or have them contact me if you need >> to. I will happily try to explain how they can create win-win for everyone. >> > >> > Here is a link to a frequency chart that shows amateur radio licensed >> allocations. Remember they are considered licensed incumbents and you >> cannot interfere with their operations. >> > >> http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Regulatory/Band%20Chart/Hambands_color.pdf >> > >> > >> > Thank You, >> > Brian Webster >> > www.wirelessmapping.com >> > www.Broadband-Mapping.com >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jerry Head >> > Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 9:05 AM >> > To: [email protected] >> > Subject: [AFMUG] HAMSs and Internet >> > >> > I think a few of the list members out there are HAMs so I need some >> advice please. >> > I support our local HAM group and have allowed them to place repeaters >> on two of my towers at no charge to their group. Now one of their members >> has asked for Internet service at one of the sites for HAM use. I have >> heard something about HAMs using the Internet to "talk" so I guess this is >> not unusual. >> > For me the kicker is that he is asking for 20x20Mbps service...I >> certainly have the capacity but that just seems excessive. >> > Opinions anyone? >> > >> >>
