Is it really entitlement or are they just asking? If they feel entitled, screw them. If they're asking nicely, have at it, if you so desire.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lewis Bergman" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 7:55:31 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] HAMSs and Internet I am still curious on why anyone thinks they deserve free stuff because they belong to a club. I belong to the club of "I don't want to pay for anything". I know, they supposedly have a public emergency benefit. I haven't ever seen them be anything more than a murderer in those situations but maybe we just have a bunch of HAM dorks around here. On Fri, Feb 19, 2016, 7:27 AM Mike Hammett < [email protected] > wrote: I see a bunch of different states listed, so it may be used as the hub, but I'm not familiar with the software. https://www.yaesu.com/jp/en/wires-x/index.php ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Jerry Head" < [email protected] > To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 7:20:56 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] HAMSs and Internet Hmm he sent a few pictures, does this look like a conference server? https://www.dropbox.com/s/lm7yqdblb6mri0l/Screenshot%202016-02-19%2007.16.28.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/e2u283gy05fgt9i/Screenshot%202016-02-19%2007.18.23.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/51jov0xxmybov37/Screenshot%202016-02-19%2007.19.32.png?dl=0 I have not applied the Google to research that device in the third picture...yet. On 2/19/2016 12:59 AM, Brian Webster wrote: > Unless they are trying to host a voice repeater conference server they do not > need anywhere near that kind of bandwidth. A conference server would host > multiple connects all at the same time, if they needed 500k per connection > that would add up. I would not let them host a conference server on your > wireless network, that stuff is better placed in big data centers. > > I am an amateur radio operator and have data and voice networks I maintain > for the clubs locally. Honestly 1 to 3 meg is more than enough for what they > will need. Anything more than that and they will likely be doing things that > they should be paying for on your network. They may be trying to do some live > video stuff but you don't need to shoulder that burden, they can do live TV > broadcasts on spectrum they have available, not as easy to do as IP cams and > Ethernet but they can do it. > > If you have the tower space you might consider offering them places to put > their own links if all they need is bandwidth between sites. There are > amateur radio spectrum allocations in the 3.3 GHz band as well as 5.9 GHz, > and I am pretty sure they can load international firmware and run their own > links on MicroTik or Ubiquiti radios. This would keep the traffic off your > network and possibly discourage them from putting up links legally licensed > in the bands you are using for your business. Technically they have licensed > rights and could knock you off the air. Best not to start that war, they can > operate in the 900, 2.4 and 5 GHz bands legally at much higher power. If you > can get them off on to the spectrum that does not overlap the unlicensed > bands everyone wins. They also have their own IPv4 space available ( ampr.org > ). > > Feel free to hit me up off list and/or have them contact me if you need to. I > will happily try to explain how they can create win-win for everyone. > > Here is a link to a frequency chart that shows amateur radio licensed > allocations. Remember they are considered licensed incumbents and you cannot > interfere with their operations. > http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Regulatory/Band%20Chart/Hambands_color.pdf > > > Thank You, > Brian Webster > www.wirelessmapping.com > www.Broadband-Mapping.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Af [mailto: [email protected] ] On Behalf Of Jerry Head > Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 9:05 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [AFMUG] HAMSs and Internet > > I think a few of the list members out there are HAMs so I need some advice > please. > I support our local HAM group and have allowed them to place repeaters on two > of my towers at no charge to their group. Now one of their members has asked > for Internet service at one of the sites for HAM use. I have heard something > about HAMs using the Internet to "talk" so I guess this is not unusual. > For me the kicker is that he is asking for 20x20Mbps service...I certainly > have the capacity but that just seems excessive. > Opinions anyone? >
