I just saw the "shortness" in the various HAM related threads. 

I think we'll agree that an enthusiast (paid or not) will do a better job than 
someone just showing up. As a tax-payer, you sure would hope that those you're 
paying to do the job are doing it better, but there's by no means a guarantee 
of that. Unfortunately, no one knows how good or bad a system is until the 
SHTF. True, the most egregious of problems are found during drills, but they're 
not 100%. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




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From: "Lewis Bergman" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 7:56:33 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tessco Show 

You would be as justified to say there are a wide variety of professional skill 
levels of radio people as I am in saying the same about HAM's skill sets. But I 
will say, on average, a person paid and tested daily on a subject should be 
better at those tasks than someone doing them when they have spare time. 
I think we agree more than you might think. My apologies if I struck a 
sensitive chord. 


On Thu, Feb 25, 2016, 7:14 AM Mike Hammett < [email protected] > wrote: 




Having seen many "professional" systems, I'm not sure that's much of a 
benchmark. 






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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 








From: "Lewis Bergman" < [email protected] > 
To: [email protected] 



Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 7:07:36 AM 



Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tessco Show 





While I have had many bad experiences I also employ several HAMS. The question 
at hand was "Why don't emergency personal involve HAMS in their operation 
readiness exercises?". I was merely offering a reason. These public safety 
officials are professionals, not amateurs, and are typically being evaluated 
during these exercises. 


The only HAM's I have issues with are the ones that cannot accept they are 
amateurs. Just like flying a drone doesn't qualify you to fly a 747, being a 
HAM doesn't qualify you to design a public safety radio system or run an EOC. 
Some HAM's are qualified, but many are not. With proper training, as someone 
mentioned in a different thread, there is a real place for them that can 
benefit public safety. 


We just installed a P25 radio system in a hospital EOC and as part of it We 
installed additional coax lines so that HAM's could more easily be integrated 
into the operations there. So, I do work with them. 


I only have issues with two types of HAM's or anyone around a specific 
industry. 


    1. freeloaders - Don't ask me to give you something free just because you 
like doing it. this is my business, not my hobby. 
    2. Know it all - I have been in the radio business officially since I was 9 
(first FCC license issued). I am a paid, highly trained professional with a lot 
of education and experience in the field. Just because you read a book and took 
a test doesn't mean you know everything. I don't know everything either, by I 
recognize it. 


These things cross all boundaries. I also didn't like some geek telling me how 
I should configure my large IP topology because he once configured a Linksys 
router at his grandmother's house so his XBox would function and it worked. 
Know your place, that is all I am saying. 


On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 9:00 PM Mike Hammett < [email protected] > wrote: 

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I'm guessing Lewis and one or two others have had some sort of bad dealing with 
a HAM and now hate the all forever for any impractical reason. 





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