Not done through eBay. Most of the refurb sellers on eBay buy low and resell high. If you buy from eBay you get hosed, if you buy from the resellers... Well, I just paid $24k for $160k worth of brand new MS-MPC-128's, I have hot and cold spares for everything, and 720Gbps of non-oversub'd throughput - paid pennies on the dollar. On Feb 27, 2016 1:43 PM, "Erich Kaiser" <[email protected]> wrote:
> As I always say, if you are looking at refurbished gear and need a full > routing table, you really need to pay attention to the specific part > numbers. There is a lot of junk on Ebay. LOL > > > Erich Kaiser > North Central Tower > [email protected] > Office: 630-621-4804 > Cell: 630-777-9291 > > > On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 1:40 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I almost ended up with 4 MLXe-8's a few months ago, but ended up getting >> a killer deal on some MX960s instead. >> On Feb 27, 2016 1:37 PM, "Erich Kaiser" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> If you go with Brocade, the MLXe is the lowest line that will give you >>> full MPLS with the number of ports you are requiring 10 or 40 or 100. I >>> talked to them yesterday about where their line is between CER and MLXe. I >>> was told possibly early next year, but no specifics. >>> >>> If you want me to price one or two for you, let me know. We just did a >>> big order of CERs for Fusion, so we are on their radar :) >>> >>> Erich Kaiser >>> North Central Tower >>> [email protected] >>> Office: 630-621-4804 >>> Cell: 630-777-9291 >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Windstream. I assume it's running on the same DTN-X platform that their >>>> 100G is running on, which should do coherent 40G. >>>> >>>> I know it will depend on what they're using and obviously how proud >>>> they are of it. I'm just here to talk about the switches on the ends and >>>> not what's in the middle. I can't make an informed decision without having >>>> both pieces and in due time I'll have the transport cost piece. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>> >>>> >>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From: *"Erich Kaiser" <[email protected]> >>>> *To: *[email protected] >>>> *Sent: *Saturday, February 27, 2016 1:05:18 PM >>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 40G >>>> >>>> Mike, >>>> >>>> Whos long haul is it? It will depend on what they are using on their >>>> end. The cheapest solution is multi-10g waves. >>>> >>>> >>>> Erich Kaiser >>>> North Central Tower >>>> [email protected] >>>> Office: 630-621-4804 >>>> Cell: 630-777-9291 >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> It would be getting waves on someone else's long haul network. >>>>> >>>>> 10G is a slam dunk over 10x 1G. Just checking out the scene for 40G. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- >>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> *From: *"Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]> >>>>> *To: *[email protected] >>>>> *Sent: *Saturday, February 27, 2016 11:25:12 AM >>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 40G >>>>> >>>>> Depends on the distance, is this for WAN over a mile or two? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> QSFP+ modules and switches can be cheap, but I agree that long >>>>> distance bonding of 4x10 SFP+ modules is cheaper. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini >>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, February 27, 2016 10:22 AM >>>>> *To:* [email protected]; [email protected] >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 40G >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> i think is more cost effective to bond 4 10g? >>>>> >>>>> Sent from Outlook Mobile <https://aka.ms/qtex0l> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 9:17 AM -0800, "Josh Reynolds" < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Which means that 40Gb WAN kin is now a steal :) >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 27, 2016 11:05 AM, "Gino Villarini" <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> 40g is for lan, wan has jumped to 100g >>>>> >>>>> Sent from Outlook Mobile <https://aka.ms/qtex0l> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 8:37 AM -0800, "Mike Hammett" < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> For those of you that have looked at 40G, what are your thoughts on >>>>> the hardware available? I'm looking at primarily switching, though >>>>> something that does VPLS, CE or similar features would be nice. Something >>>>> with TRILL or a TRILL derivative would be nice too. >>>>> >>>>> I'm not talking Juniper MX scale. Light on power is one of the biggest >>>>> priorities. >>>>> >>>>> It doesn't need to have a million ports, either. I do like the Nexus >>>>> 9k that we've got, but in some areas, something with more functionality >>>>> would be nice. >>>>> >>>>> I'm perfectly aware that what I want feature wise may not be available >>>>> cost wise. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- >>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >
