For the price one could pay for two cloudcores I was able to get a chassis capable of almost 10Tbps of throughput. I'm okay with that. Oh, and JUNOS > IOS :P On Feb 27, 2016 7:27 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" <[email protected]> wrote:
> In my experience this usually means there is 10x more used Cisco core > router gear on the grey market than Cisco. > > This is somewhat frustrating as I see a lot fewer m320, t320, t640, t1600, > mx960 on the marker than I see Cisco ASR and older generation CRS1 stuff. > On Feb 27, 2016 5:02 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Had nothing to do with the actually vendors, came down to supply and >> demand on the gray market. >> On Feb 27, 2016 7:02 PM, "Paul Stewart" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Juniper doesn’t like to lose deals to Brocade ;) >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds >>> *Sent:* Saturday, February 27, 2016 2:41 PM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 40G >>> >>> >>> >>> I almost ended up with 4 MLXe-8's a few months ago, but ended up getting >>> a killer deal on some MX960s instead. >>> >>> On Feb 27, 2016 1:37 PM, "Erich Kaiser" <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> If you go with Brocade, the MLXe is the lowest line that will give you >>> full MPLS with the number of ports you are requiring 10 or 40 or 100. I >>> talked to them yesterday about where their line is between CER and MLXe. I >>> was told possibly early next year, but no specifics. >>> >>> >>> >>> If you want me to price one or two for you, let me know. We just did a >>> big order of CERs for Fusion, so we are on their radar :) >>> >>> >>> >>> Erich Kaiser >>> >>> North Central Tower >>> >>> [email protected] >>> >>> Office: 630-621-4804 >>> >>> Cell: 630-777-9291 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Windstream. I assume it's running on the same DTN-X platform that their >>> 100G is running on, which should do coherent 40G. >>> >>> I know it will depend on what they're using and obviously how proud they >>> are of it. I'm just here to talk about the switches on the ends and not >>> what's in the middle. I can't make an informed decision without having both >>> pieces and in due time I'll have the transport cost piece. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>> >>> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From: *"Erich Kaiser" <[email protected]> >>> *To: *[email protected] >>> *Sent: *Saturday, February 27, 2016 1:05:18 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 40G >>> >>> Mike, >>> >>> Whos long haul is it? It will depend on what they are using on their >>> end. The cheapest solution is multi-10g waves. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Erich Kaiser >>> >>> North Central Tower >>> >>> [email protected] >>> >>> Office: 630-621-4804 >>> >>> Cell: 630-777-9291 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> It would be getting waves on someone else's long haul network. >>> >>> 10G is a slam dunk over 10x 1G. Just checking out the scene for 40G. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>> >>> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From: *"Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]> >>> *To: *[email protected] >>> *Sent: *Saturday, February 27, 2016 11:25:12 AM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 40G >>> >>> Depends on the distance, is this for WAN over a mile or two? >>> >>> >>> >>> QSFP+ modules and switches can be cheap, but I agree that long distance >>> bonding of 4x10 SFP+ modules is cheaper. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini >>> *Sent:* Saturday, February 27, 2016 10:22 AM >>> *To:* [email protected]; [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 40G >>> >>> >>> >>> i think is more cost effective to bond 4 10g? >>> >>> Sent from Outlook Mobile <https://aka.ms/qtex0l> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 9:17 AM -0800, "Josh Reynolds" < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Which means that 40Gb WAN kin is now a steal :) >>> >>> On Feb 27, 2016 11:05 AM, "Gino Villarini" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> 40g is for lan, wan has jumped to 100g >>> >>> Sent from Outlook Mobile <https://aka.ms/qtex0l> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 8:37 AM -0800, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> For those of you that have looked at 40G, what are your thoughts on the >>> hardware available? I'm looking at primarily switching, though something >>> that does VPLS, CE or similar features would be nice. Something with TRILL >>> or a TRILL derivative would be nice too. >>> >>> I'm not talking Juniper MX scale. Light on power is one of the biggest >>> priorities. >>> >>> It doesn't need to have a million ports, either. I do like the Nexus 9k >>> that we've got, but in some areas, something with more functionality would >>> be nice. >>> >>> I'm perfectly aware that what I want feature wise may not be available >>> cost wise. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>> >>> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>
