and the PTP600 was what, ten years old when the AF5x came out? 



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From: "Stefan Englhardt" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 9:34:21 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range? 



Yes. Under very good conditions 1024 QAM is possible with AF5X. With Back2Back 
Sync we’ve to play with power levels of the 
remote sides to keep modulations up. 

AF5X is a very good radio. First 5GHz Radio better than PTP600 imho. And it 
takes only 10W compared to the 50W of a PTP600. 
The SW is not as good. Every change gives a reboot. 




Von: Af [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von Josh Luthman 
Gesendet: Dienstag, 1. März 2016 15:34 
An: [email protected] 
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range? 


I want to say the old Blackberries could do 64QAM (802.11n)? 


AF5x can do 1024QAM - that's just AMAZING!!! 








Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Josh Reynolds < [email protected] > wrote: 


LOL I wouldn't have said "kind of crap", but sure, the AF24 is 64QAM. 
The AF24HD is 256QAM. 

On Mar 1, 2016 8:27 AM, "Josh Luthman" < [email protected] > wrote: 
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Probably added another modulation on top. Old one was kind of crap, wasn't it? 
64QAM? 








Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 9:26 AM, Steve Utick < [email protected] > wrote: 


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However, the HD is also gigabit full duplex as well, whereas the 24 is only 700 
Meg full duplex. 





On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 7:17 AM, Josh Baird < [email protected] > wrote: 
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Yeah, the price tag on the 'HD' is steeeeeeep. 





On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Joe Novak < [email protected] > wrote: 
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Apologies, I had no idea the AF24HD was going for 6k a link, wow! Looking 
back.. it does look like the AF24 is still 3k per link, which I for some reason 
thought the AF24HD would be more cost competitive. Mimosa's links are in a 
great spot... I think the promise was sometime this month. 



On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 9:03 PM, Erich Kaiser < [email protected] > 
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Same with Cambium PTP820S 
















Erich Kaiser 

North Central Tower 

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Office: 630-621-4804 

Cell: 630-777-9291 






On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 6:58 PM, Chris Wright < [email protected] > wrote: 
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The trick is getting Mimosa to actually ship them. >.> 

Chris Wright 
Network Administrator 
Velociter Wireless 
209-838-1221 x115 

From: Af [mailto: [email protected] ] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard 
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 11:22 AM 
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range? 


A Mimosa B11 link can be done for about the same cost as AF24HD... 



On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 10:27 AM, Chuck McCown < [email protected] > wrote: 




I would do licensed. 11 or 18 GHz. Then you save the spectrum and have 
something that works all the time. That that much more money. If you are maxing 
out APs then you have the customers to pay for the licensed BH. 






From: Adam Moffett 

Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 9:25 AM 

To: [email protected] 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range? 



More than 1.5 to maybe 2 miles at 24ghz is nuts. 
...but it depends how much rain you get. 

On 2/29/2016 11:23 AM, Sam Lambie wrote: 
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Hey all, 
I have a PTP 450 link at 6.937 miles that is working fine with 3 access points. 
But we want to install another 450 AP and I am loathe to use it as will 
saturate the link in no time. 
Looking to save the 5ghz spectrum for our AP's, I am thinking of the AF24HD. 
Has anyone installed a link that far? Does it work well? I don't need the full 
2 gigs. More like 300 would be more than enough for quite a while. 

Sam 





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Sam Lambie 
Taosnet Wireless Tech. 
575-758-7598 Office 
www.Taosnet.com 




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