You know Rory, as long as it's "conservatives versus liberals" and
liberals are the scum of the earth, you're never going to listen to reason.
For the most part I F6 your posts because they all seem to go down the
same rat hole. You seem to have a chip on your shoulder.
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On 3/12/2016 8:56 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:
You know what Ken, let’s do this.
You need me to sound racist because your liberal mindset is that
everyone is a victim. I probably have a much wider diversity of
friends, business partners, and colleagues than you do and never has
anyone ever called me racist. Because I abhor racial division and
call it out for what it is, an excuse for failure and control by race
hustlers, I’m a racist. That’s the pea-brained mentality of the
intellectually dishonest. You simply can’t understand that there are
those of us who don’t care about race, we simply don’t have time for
it in our lives and we don’t see it. However, we can define the
problems created by race, race hustlers, and liberals who don’t want
to face facts, just blame everyone else for their problems and failures.
What I care about is that there is a class of people that are not
assimilating into society because nobody wants to face the facts. You
would rather stick your head in the sand and call out those of us who
see the truth racists. Here is a fact, not having a solid family
support system, not following the law, and not working hard is a
recipe for failure, regardless of the race. If you don’t want to face
that fact, so be it. Stick your head in the sand, blame me and call
me names, and stand by while our country falls apart because you don’t
have the intellectual honesty to face that fact that the greatest
country in the world is falling apart from within and from the
outside. Hell yes, I want our borders sealed and immigrants required
to learn our language and honor our heritage. Hell yes I want every
child to get a good education that honors this country, the founders
that gave it to us, and the men and women who died to protect it.
And until we recognize that keeping an entire culture in poverty and
ignorance by not expecting them to excel is a bad thing, then we as a
country are doomed to further internal violence, strife, and
separation. I don’t care about the color, I care about the fact that
color is used as an excuse.
The sad part is it’s not just any specific culture, it’s the entire
generation. There isn’t a manufacturer here that doesn’t have
engineering outside this country because they can’t find enough
engineering talent within our own borders because our culture and
education failed an entire generation. And as for Obama, his
policies have escalated this problem, including unemployment, a poor
economy, lower standards of living, hatred of police and authority,
and racial division and escalation. So if you are big supporter of
him, congratulations, you picked a real winner there. You want the
truth, that’s it. So bring it on Ken. I’ll back my conclusions with
the facts from the Census bureau, the FBI, the U.S Department of the
Interior, the U.S. Bureau of Labor, and the Bureau of Economic
Analysis but those facts won’t matter will they?
Rory
*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
*Sent:* Saturday, March 12, 2016 9:25 AM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over?
Yes, I think your statements sound racist, and finally I call your out
for it. Why is that over the line? You have made some pretty
inflammatory statements, but it seems you can’t take any criticism?
We have a WISPA conference coming up. One thing I always notice is we
are not a very diverse crowd. Almost all white men. That leads to
the belief that prejudice is OK because everyone here thinks that way too.
*From:*Rory Conaway <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:*Saturday, March 12, 2016 10:14 AM
*To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over?
That’s out of line Ken, at any level. What matters to me is that the
violence fostered by ignorant people in our society who don’t
contribute, but foster racial hatred and disdain for the Constitution,
the Laws of this country, and want special treatment. I don’t give a
crap what color they are but they keep bringing it up. Black Lives
Matter, Black Caucuses, etc… The rest of us just want everyone to be
Americans but it’s liberals that won’t let race go because they need
it to stay in power.
You want to attack me for my beliefs Ken, that’s fine. You want to
call me a racist, what I really want to tell you will get me banned.
I’m done with this and Ken, please don’t ever speak to me again. You
went too far.
Rory
*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
*Sent:* Saturday, March 12, 2016 8:17 AM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over?
Black people really seem to set you off.
*From:*Rory Conaway <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:*Saturday, March 12, 2016 8:51 AM
*To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over?
Faisal, I’m ready to continue our other discussion. BTW, Black Lives
Matter showed up to the Chicago rally and now there is looting and gun
fire. I really doubt the Trump supporters are doing that.
Rory
*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Faisal Imtiaz
*Sent:* Saturday, March 12, 2016 7:32 AM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over?
I hope you realize that everyone participating in this discussion is
an Adult, and a Patriot. Everyone is very much concerned about the
future of our great nation. The discussion is over the events as they
are unfolding.
It is very interesting to me, as an independent, that folks on the
right are so upset, and so polarized in their view that they are
willing to accept bad behavior from anyone of their affiliated party,
since that person can do nothing wrong and the other side cannot do
nothing right...
I fully understand that everyone is passionate, but exchange of views
in a polite healthy manner is the proper decorum, watching the GOP
primaries turn into a circus act is embarrassing, because the world
is watching, and to see folks trying to explain and justify is even
more troubling.
Bad behavior is bad behavior, it should be called out, and it should
not bt acceptable at any level from anyone. While the media is fully
responsible for fueling the fire and covering only the inciting
stuff.... watch closely the clips of trouble at the Trump rallies,
there appears to be an steadily increasing amount of 'supporter
participation' in this bad behavior.... (when someone is being lead
out, by security there are folks hitting and throwing punches at the
person being lead out....).. and Mr Trump constantly refuses to
condemn such behavior, which indicates approval.
While you can explain it and justify it which ever way you want, some
of us who have had a broader view of the world, have seen this type of
behavior and events , in the other parts of the world.. and the end
results were not very good for anyone.... As such their is rising
concern.
The GOP is playing with Fire, one they think they can control....
historically speaking when that particular type of genie is let out of
the bottle, no one has been able to control it .....
:)
Regards
Faisal Imtiaz
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*From: *"Rory Conaway" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
*To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent: *Saturday, March 12, 2016 9:05:42 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over?
Jaime, travel to the WWII museum and learn about the sacrifices we
made as a country to stop men like Hitler. You have so
mischaracterized what Trump is saying but I’d rather take this
discussion elsewhere to someplace like Facebook.
Rory
*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
*Sent:* Saturday, March 12, 2016 6:59 AM
*To:* Animal Farm
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over?
Fault? Its human nature....you push me and I push back...most
fights start that way...literally and figuratively... Trump
doesn't deny he has asked him audience to beat the crap of those
"bad dudes"...let's go back to old days....what civil rights
riots? Wallace? Lynching? He is playing to the older white man
who fears foreigners are taking over the US. Xenophobia was one of
Hitler and others methods used to create a fervor and led to
murder of millions. i have a different perspective on things from
my ancestors and upbringing plus traveling. Travel outside USA
and your eyes open a bit more. I normally stay quiet on
politics but not this time.....too much at stake...Trump will not win.
