The NSA may do (and likely does) all of the above, it's been extensively reported. The main difference is that while the NSA is acting like a signals intelligence agency, it's doing its stated purpose, the US Internet is *not*
*censored. * The Chinese "great firewall" is a very real thing. Huge numbers of things are blocked in China. Yes, American companies and equipment vendors have been complicit in this in the past. In the US an ISP can be forced to take something offline through a court order, for a very specific reason. In China all international internet traffic in/out of the country is filtered through government run equipment. Try saying something against the Party on Sina Weibo and see how long your account stays active. Basic things like BBC News and the New York Times are blocked in China. I don't think that we in the US realize how good we have it as far as an unfettered Internet where the constitution protects ISPs. Even basic things like VoIP traffic that is seen as a revenue threat to national telecoms (or government ministers' rich friends) is blocked in many places. Try running a SIP basic VoIP service in most Arabic speaking countries and see how long your business plan survives. On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 4:44 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote: > Has anybody taken a look at the number of government employees China has > by any chance? What about the number of DoD and general federal workforce? > Do those members of the workforce - do their policies and beliefs fall 100% > in line with things the government as a whole says or does? > > You guys realize that half the shit you've heard about Huawei was bullshit > put for by our government who were acting as mouthpieces for Cisco which > was later RECANTED by our own government in just a few short years and then > used in FEDERALLY FUNDED PROJECTS, right? > > I'm curious if maybe Google, Amazon, and Facebook have done anything "bad" > in your eyes... Since they have direct connections to the CIA and NSA. They > have an incredible amount of data and control. > > What's that, the NSA has intercepted routing and switching products mid > shipment and modified them before sending them out? What's that, the NSA > was caught weakening encryption protocols, the Linux kernel, and put > backdoors in equipment from companies like Fortigate, Cisco, and Juniper - > putting our own countries citizens and world governments at risk in the > process? > > I'm not saying that Huawei is any kind of saint, or that they haven't done > shitty things in the past - my problem is you and others are insinuating > that every employee Huawei has ever had is some kind of scumbag while > simultaneously holding up a different mirror to our own government and its > employees. > > For fukes sake get some goddamn perspective. > On Mar 19, 2016 6:30 PM, "Jason McKemie" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I'd tend to agree, hence my concern. I'm not sure that just having one of >> the lead people from Huawei is any connection other than the obvious. This >> person could have had issues with the company as well, and left as a result. >> >> On Saturday, March 19, 2016, Rory Conaway <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> If there is a Huawei connection, we won’t touch it, simple as that. >>> Huawei is both a thief and an arm of the Chinese government. >>> >>> >>> >>> Rory >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard >>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 19, 2016 4:03 PM >>> *To:* af >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview >>> >>> >>> >>> I'm assuming that $1/month is for some kind of cloud based EPC.... you >>> can most likely buy your own instead, but that seems to be one of the more >>> costly parts of doing LTE. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 5:38 PM, Jason McKemie < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Good interview. A couple things I'm wondering / concerned about >>> though. First of all, what's with the $1/month/CPE? I realize it isn't a >>> ton of money, just seems like an expense that shouldn't be there. Also, >>> I'm a little wary of the Huawei tie-in - although I haven't researched the >>> specific "fellow" that they're talking about. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 9:26 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5vNs0roFK4 >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>> >>> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>
