When it comes to Huawei I'm more referring to them just outright ripping other companies' products off - not so much software backdoors (many other companies do that).
On Sunday, March 20, 2016, Faisal Imtiaz <[email protected]> wrote: > Oh grow up, get a grip..... > > The Chinese MFG are eating everyone's lunch.... all over the world. > The American and European MFG, are (Screwing) all the American and > European Companies like crazy on the premium pricing which is totally > unchecked... (Why does a SFP+ cost $65 from China and $1500 from Cisco etc > ?) > > And telling stories that create FUD to have folks keep away from doing > business with the overseas mfg. pays quiet well... > > Let's flip this argument for a moment... Do you think that Cisco / Alcatel > / Lucent / etc etc don't have some sort of backdoor built into their > products for the US/EU governments ? > > Why are you worried about an international gov. snooping in your tiny > piss-any network, when any gov. can already do so ? > > Do business with who you like, and don't with who you don't like.... it's > totally your choice.... > > But at the end of the day, when the Gov is involved, irrespective of which > one... you have to bring your own jar of Vaseline, and they don't kiss in > the morning ! > > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > > > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> > *To: *[email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> > *Sent: *Sunday, March 20, 2016 2:22:11 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview > > They may be able to sell some of that here domestically, since one of the > presidential candidates suggested “closing that Internet up in some way”. > > > > *From:* Josh Reynolds > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> > *Sent:* Sunday, March 20, 2016 1:00 PM > *To:* [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview > > > You are familiar with Cisco developing products to aid in China's internet > snooping and repression, right? > On Mar 20, 2016 12:16 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > >> Recent article raises suspicions Huawei violated Iran sanctions. >> >> >> http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/19/technology/zte-document-raises-questions-about-huawei-and-sanctions.html?_r=0 >> >> Although expecting Chinese companies to obey our sanctions against Iran >> and not use tricks to get around them is probably unrealistic. But it’s a >> little humorous reading how ZTE copied the tricks of an unnamed company >> that is clearly Huawei. >> >> >> *From:* Mike Hammett <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >> *Sent:* Sunday, March 20, 2016 11:44 AM >> *To:* [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview >> >> Some of it is bull, but the blatant duplication of Cisco is indisputable. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> >> *To: *[email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >> *Sent: *Saturday, March 19, 2016 6:44:02 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview >> >> Has anybody taken a look at the number of government employees China has >> by any chance? What about the number of DoD and general federal workforce? >> Do those members of the workforce - do their policies and beliefs fall 100% >> in line with things the government as a whole says or does? >> >> You guys realize that half the shit you've heard about Huawei was >> bullshit put for by our government who were acting as mouthpieces for Cisco >> which was later RECANTED by our own government in just a few short years >> and then used in FEDERALLY FUNDED PROJECTS, right? >> >> I'm curious if maybe Google, Amazon, and Facebook have done anything >> "bad" in your eyes... Since they have direct connections to the CIA and >> NSA. They have an incredible amount of data and control. >> >> What's that, the NSA has intercepted routing and switching products mid >> shipment and modified them before sending them out? What's that, the NSA >> was caught weakening encryption protocols, the Linux kernel, and put >> backdoors in equipment from companies like Fortigate, Cisco, and Juniper - >> putting our own countries citizens and world governments at risk in the >> process? >> >> I'm not saying that Huawei is any kind of saint, or that they haven't >> done shitty things in the past - my problem is you and others are >> insinuating that every employee Huawei has ever had is some kind of scumbag >> while simultaneously holding up a different mirror to our own government >> and its employees. >> >> For fukes sake get some goddamn perspective. >> On Mar 19, 2016 6:30 PM, "Jason McKemie" < >> [email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> >> wrote: >> >>> I'd tend to agree, hence my concern. I'm not sure that just having one >>> of the lead people from Huawei is any connection other than the obvious. >>> This person could have had issues with the company as well, and left as a >>> result. >>> >>> On Saturday, March 19, 2016, Rory Conaway <[email protected] >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: >>> >>>> If there is a Huawei connection, we won’t touch it, simple as that. >>>> Huawei is both a thief and an arm of the Chinese government. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Rory >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard >>>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 19, 2016 4:03 PM >>>> *To:* af >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I'm assuming that $1/month is for some kind of cloud based EPC.... you >>>> can most likely buy your own instead, but that seems to be one of the more >>>> costly parts of doing LTE. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 5:38 PM, Jason McKemie < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Good interview. A couple things I'm wondering / concerned about >>>> though. First of all, what's with the $1/month/CPE? I realize it isn't a >>>> ton of money, just seems like an expense that shouldn't be there. Also, >>>> I'm a little wary of the Huawei tie-in - although I haven't researched the >>>> specific "fellow" that they're talking about. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 9:26 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5vNs0roFK4 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>> >>>> >>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > >
