Those are both way more geared for server / VM ops than network / related.
They're not bad though.
On Mar 22, 2016 8:08 AM, "Josh Baird" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I wouldn't say that.  Zenoss/Zabbix aren't exactly old school.
>
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 9:06 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Observium\LibreNMS and NetXMS are the three platforms I'd consider worth
>> using. Most anything else is old school.
>>
>>
>>
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>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
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>> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]>
>> *To: *[email protected]
>> *Sent: *Friday, March 18, 2016 5:57:16 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll
>>
>> Observium you can also script, also direct rancid / smokeping / collectd
>> / nfsen integration, alerting via email / SMS / slack / email / custom, can
>> do billing based on data totals or 95%, easily separate your links by
>> core/transit/peering/customer based on standards ifdesc, etc.
>>
>> For our fiber network, it does everything  we'd want it to do including
>> monitoring all our ups, environmental monitoring (it watchdogs), maps the
>> network, grabs bgp and ospf tables, etc.
>>
>> I just point it to a DNS entry of a management interface or let it learn
>> hosts via CDP/lldp/EDP/etc and away it goes... No fucking around like with
>> mrtg/cacti/nagios.
>> On Mar 18, 2016 4:15 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I just don't see the point of Observium (paid) when you can run totally
>>> free software that is more full featured and actively developed by large
>>> ISPs:
>>>
>>>
>>> OpenNMS - is used as the primary alerting/NMS system for some very large
>>> tier 1 and 2 ISPs
>>>
>>> Cacti - get it set up right with 60 second polling and properly
>>> sized/stepped RRDs, and you can use it to chart things with any arbitrary
>>> non-NMS datasource via shell scripts.
>>>
>>> Grafana - pull data from a time series database like OpenTSDB and graph
>>> it.
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't rely on one but rather run cacti and opennms for everything.
>>> OpenNMS handles the alerts and availability monitoring, cacti graphs layer
>>> 1 and 2 parameters (optical DOM and RF variables) and layer 3 IP traffic
>>> interfaces.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Adam from Observium? He since has "recanted his views" after being
>>>> banned from a forum or two and reddit and then started bleeding
>>>> customers.
>>>>
>>>> Their supported devices page are now full of stuff most WISPs and MSPs
>>>> use.
>>>>
>>>> BTW, observium is awesome and the paid version (like $225 a year) now
>>>> supports custom devices/OS's/OIDs.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 1:29 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> > bad fire
>>>> >
>>>> > would the guy from that nms who hated the customers be in charge
>>>> >
>>>> > On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 1:10 PM, SmarterBroadband
>>>> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> A number of us are cacti users.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Who would be interested in forming a group, where we all pay a small
>>>> >> monthly fee to have a “company” build and manage a cacti template
>>>> library
>>>> >> for us?  We would specify our template requirements.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> They would be expected to;
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Create templates as requested.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Update templates for new firmware.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Keep a library of all templates.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I don’t know what company yet.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> What do you think?
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Adam
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>> team as
>>>> > part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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