Are you talking about out-of-the-box functionality?  Yeah, maybe Observium,
in this sense, is geared more towards enterprise-ish 'network devices,' but
Zenoss has a much better SNMP interface.  It allows you to easily create
new SNMP datasources and custom graphs (something that is not possible in
Observium without a bunch of code).  This makes it much more flexible then
other options like Observium in my opinion.

Ultimately, it really depends on exactly what you want to monitor and how
much effort you want to put into a solution.

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote:

> Those are both way more geared for server / VM ops than network / related.
> They're not bad though.
> On Mar 22, 2016 8:08 AM, "Josh Baird" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I wouldn't say that.  Zenoss/Zabbix aren't exactly old school.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 9:06 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Observium\LibreNMS and NetXMS are the three platforms I'd consider worth
>>> using. Most anything else is old school.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
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>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]>
>>> *To: *[email protected]
>>> *Sent: *Friday, March 18, 2016 5:57:16 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll
>>>
>>> Observium you can also script, also direct rancid / smokeping / collectd
>>> / nfsen integration, alerting via email / SMS / slack / email / custom, can
>>> do billing based on data totals or 95%, easily separate your links by
>>> core/transit/peering/customer based on standards ifdesc, etc.
>>>
>>> For our fiber network, it does everything  we'd want it to do including
>>> monitoring all our ups, environmental monitoring (it watchdogs), maps the
>>> network, grabs bgp and ospf tables, etc.
>>>
>>> I just point it to a DNS entry of a management interface or let it learn
>>> hosts via CDP/lldp/EDP/etc and away it goes... No fucking around like with
>>> mrtg/cacti/nagios.
>>> On Mar 18, 2016 4:15 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just don't see the point of Observium (paid) when you can run totally
>>>> free software that is more full featured and actively developed by large
>>>> ISPs:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OpenNMS - is used as the primary alerting/NMS system for some very
>>>> large tier 1 and 2 ISPs
>>>>
>>>> Cacti - get it set up right with 60 second polling and properly
>>>> sized/stepped RRDs, and you can use it to chart things with any arbitrary
>>>> non-NMS datasource via shell scripts.
>>>>
>>>> Grafana - pull data from a time series database like OpenTSDB and graph
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't rely on one but rather run cacti and opennms for everything.
>>>> OpenNMS handles the alerts and availability monitoring, cacti graphs layer
>>>> 1 and 2 parameters (optical DOM and RF variables) and layer 3 IP traffic
>>>> interfaces.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Adam from Observium? He since has "recanted his views" after being
>>>>> banned from a forum or two and reddit and then started bleeding
>>>>> customers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Their supported devices page are now full of stuff most WISPs and MSPs
>>>>> use.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW, observium is awesome and the paid version (like $225 a year) now
>>>>> supports custom devices/OS's/OIDs.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 1:29 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> > bad fire
>>>>> >
>>>>> > would the guy from that nms who hated the customers be in charge
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 1:10 PM, SmarterBroadband
>>>>> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> A number of us are cacti users.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Who would be interested in forming a group, where we all pay a small
>>>>> >> monthly fee to have a “company” build and manage a cacti template
>>>>> library
>>>>> >> for us?  We would specify our template requirements.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> They would be expected to;
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Create templates as requested.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Update templates for new firmware.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Keep a library of all templates.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I don’t know what company yet.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> What do you think?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Adam
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > --
>>>>> > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>>> team as
>>>>> > part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>

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