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From: Steve Utick 
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 5:27 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP20C

It's pretty impossible to show in the interface, as the physical radio itself 
is exactly the same.  What makes it TX high or TX low is the position of the 
diplexer in the radio.  You can flip them to make the High radio a Low and vice 
versa.


I've attached a picture of the diplexer out of a Ceragon 6GHz radio.  You can 
see the L and H markings on it.  Simply flipping the diplexer end for end 
changes the radio from TX high to TX low.



On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net> wrote:

  Ok, so looking at my parts list it does appear that one is H and one is L.



  Unfortunately, the geniuses at Ceragon don’t seem to have figured out how to 
show that in the interface anywhere.



  So I guess I’ll have to climb one of the towers to figure out which it is.



  So for example, if I’m using channel 11200 and 10800 then the H radio needs 
to be assigned the 11200 channel?

  And the 10800 the L radio?



  Do I have that right?



  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Utick
  Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 4:51 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP20C



  If I remember right, the radios I have do have frequencies listed on the 
sticker as well, so that should tell you if they are capable of the range you 
have.

  The radios will happily let you program frequencies into them that are 
outside of the diplexers that are in the radio, they just won't work very well, 
if at all.



  On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Caleb Knauer <cknauer.li...@gmail.com> wrote:

    I think there's two sub-bands they use, what they call channels 1-6
    and 7-12.  IIRC, the label that lists the PN shows the frequency
    range, but that may have been one of their other models.  Been a
    little bit since I laid hands on one.
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    On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 6:18 PM, Steve Utick <sut...@gmail.com> wrote:
    > On the serial # sticker on the radio, one will have a L in the middle of 
the
    > part number, and other will have a H in the middle.
    >
    > As for the sub bands, etc. you'd have to check part #'s on the radio to 
see
    > what sub bands they are for and what frequencies that encompasses, and if
    > it's within the new frequencies you are operating in or not.
    >
    >
    > On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 2:26 PM, Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net>
    > wrote:
    >>
    >> Ok, so that’s a physical thing?
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> I had assumed that the radios/antennas could do the full 11GHz spectrum.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> Does anyone know how to tell if this IP20C have to be physically or
    >> programmatically configured for high/low?
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> I don’t see that in the docs.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ty Featherling
    >> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 2:09 PM
    >> To: af@afmug.com
    >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP20C
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> There should be a low side and a high side. One transmits at the higher
    >> frequency and the other lower. I found out if you have the low one set to
    >> transmit high it won't work. I can't remember on the ip20 but some ODUs 
can
    >> be rotated to switch from high to low. That may be what you did when you
    >> rotated that one side.
    >>
    >> -Ty
    >>
    >> -Ty
    >>
    >> On Mar 24, 2016 2:22 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net> 
wrote:
    >>
    >> I’m not sure there is a parameter for that in this radio.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> I don’t see anything saying High or Low.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> I just see a tx/rx for each pair of radios in each side.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> Per Ceragon instructions those are the same tx/rx settings for both
    >> radios, just reversed on the other side.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ty Featherling
    >> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 1:18 PM
    >> To: af@afmug.com
    >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP20C
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> You changed channels, it it still the right unit? High vs low?
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> -Ty
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> -Ty
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >> I'm checking, but yet, they should be.
    >>
    >> This link was up and working last year, then it was removed off the
    >> mountain, then this year put back up with one end in a different location
    >> and under a different FCC license.
    >>
    >> So the things that were changed were the tx/rx frequencies (matching send
    >> for both radios on a side and matching receive, just switched on each 
end)
    >> and dBm now on both sides.
    >>
    >> Physically on one side we 'rotated' the antenna/mount 180 degrees to make
    >> it a right handed mount instead of left handed.
    >> That shouldn't matter, should it?
    >>
    >> I don't have management access available externally, or even able to
    >> connect to the internet at this point in time, or I would.
    >>
    >> I could send screen shots I guess.
    >>
    >>
    >> -----Original Message-----
    >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband
    >> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 12:36 PM
    >> To: af@afmug.com
    >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP20C
    >>
    >> Are they on the same firmware?
    >> That caused us a problem where they would not link.
    >>
    >> Can you give me remote access?  I could take a quick look and compare to
    >> one of my links.
    >>
    >> Adam
    >>
    >> -----Original Message-----
    >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
    >> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 11:33 AM
    >> To: af@afmug.com
    >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP20C
    >>
    >> Hey guys, I am completely stumped at this point.
    >>
    >> I've tried three times to get this link working, to even show a brief 
blip
    >> of anything showing up on the other side power wise.
    >>
    >> I have both radios ON and transmitting at full 24dBm.
    >>
    >> I don't see ANYTHING change on the other side of the link.
    >>
    >> This is with 3' dishes and about 8 miles out.
    >>
    >> All settings on both sides are the same except tx/rx frequencies swapped
    >> of course.
    >>
    >> What am I missing?
    >>
    >> Is there some magic on/off switch or feature/function that I am
    >> overlooking on these radios?
    >>
    >> GAAAHHHHH!
    >>
    >> -----Original Message-----
    >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
    >> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 2:13 PM
    >> To: 'af@afmug.com' <af@afmug.com>
    >> Subject: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP20C
    >>
    >> Anyone around today that has configured and aimed these before?
    >>
    >> I'm in the web page under Radio Parameters and I'm confused about the TX
    >> Mute.
    >>
    >> Should that be ON to allow the radios to talk? Or OFF?
    >>
    >> And I'm unsure on XPIC, I think I have it so it should work, but I only
    >> have a pair of frequencies, but two actual radios per side of this link.
    >>
    >>
    >
    >



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