Door strikes are normally pretty universal On Mar 28, 2016 9:27 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yeah, this looks nice. > > It's a better turnkey solution, if the strike and something like the > BioLite Net don't cost a fortune. > > I too need the API, so that would be nice to convert my setup to them > (keeping the door strike since that was a major PITA to install). > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds > Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 8:08 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] door access control > > What about the door controller? > > On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 9:04 PM, Nate Burke <[email protected]> wrote: > > I contacted suprema, and they directed me to a local reseller. The > > Reseller had no problem selling me just the xpass no questions ask. I > > think they were about $350. Very easy to install and setup. > > > > On 3/28/2016 8:59 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > >> > >> Suprema looks pretty good.. > >> > >> https://www.supremainc.com/en/AccessControl-TimeandAttendance/Platfor > >> m/BioStar-2-Mobile > >> > >> On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Sterling Jacobson > >> <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Your pretty much back to the windows database solution at this point. > >>> > >>> You can do this with the cheap Chinese boards in aggregate with > >>> their software. > >>> > >>> It’s not pretty, but it does what you want, multiple controllers, > >>> software with users and keys and time/scheduler etc. > >>> > >>> All for a few hundred bucks per four doors using standard keypads > >>> and locks. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Otherwise, let us know if you find anything cool! > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Would be nice to get a better turnkey solution that wasn’t based on > >>> 90’s interface and DB paradigm. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds > >>> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 7:51 PM > >>> To: [email protected] > >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] door access control > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> My access solution needs to have different access per user / door / > >>> time via pin and keyfob, so can't really get something too simple > >>> due to various needs, contractors, etc. :/ > >>> > >>> On Mar 28, 2016 8:47 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> > >>> You will all laugh but I just put in a wink and schlage locks. Not > >>> exactly a real security system since there is no keypad you can arm > >>> or disarm. > >>> You > >>> can only do that through the app. One of my people doesn't have a > >>> new enough smartphone for the app. It allows you to use robots which > >>> are simple if then logic. > >>> I know it isn't difficult enough for many of you but it is cheap, > >>> easy, and pretty. > >>> A nice keypad would be a good pi project to round it out though. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Mon, Mar 28, 2016, 7:32 PM Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> > >>> You have a door strike. The magnetic systems can be no or nc. If you > >>> loopback 12v from the keypad back to the doorcontroller, you can > >>> often trigger a fault state that releases power to the maglock. ;) > >>> > >>> On Mar 28, 2016 7:11 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> I’m pretty sure you could also just smash the glass and walk in too > >>> J > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> But the door strike on mine does go back to the controller I > >>> believe, so you couldn’t just jimmy the keypad wiring. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Not really a high security scenario since my idea was to > >>> theoretically be able to pay $5 and enter (then walk out with anything > you like I guess). > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds > >>> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 6:07 PM > >>> To: [email protected] > >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] door access control > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Also, pretty sure the one you have... If I remember right, I could > >>> rip the keypad off and touch brown to red to open the door based on > >>> the wiring diagram. > >>> > >>> On Mar 28, 2016 7:03 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> I've had the same problem. > >>> > >>> The local alarm company wanted like $3-4k for a two door install, lol! > >>> > >>> Here is what I did so far: > >>> > >>> I bought a controller board off of eBay that does the standard > >>> protocol used by the strike. > >>> I bought the strike off ebay too. > >>> I bought a keypad controller off eBay. > >>> The controller came with a small locking box, and has room for a > >>> battery backup and can use PoE. > >>> > >>> The whole thing cost less than $500 I think. > >>> > >>> I used Ethernet to connect the box to my switch and to the strike > >>> and keypad. > >>> > >>> The controller has a simple web interface you log on to and then > >>> add/remove door codes. > >>> > >>> I did have to interpret some Chinese manuals to figure out the > >>> pinouts for everything, but it works as expected. > >>> > >>> What I have left to do is map the private IP of the controller to a > >>> public IP and firewall it. > >>> > >>> And then I wanted to write a service/web api to it so I could use a > >>> up to date 'normal' API access to add/remove door codes. > >>> > >>> Let me know if you want more details. > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds > >>> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 4:53 PM > >>> To: [email protected] > >>> Subject: [AFMUG] door access control > >>> > >>> I'm dying here. Every single system I can find is shit or costs an > >>> arm and a leg, to the point where I'm considering starting a company > >>> to make a better system. I just need an embedded, web based, IP > >>> access control system. It needs to be able to control the individual > >>> door access controllers to electronic striker or maglock to the > >>> keypad. POE here is best. If it requires software running on a > >>> windows PC then I don't want anything to do with it, even for those > >>> of you who are like "put it in a vm"... no. Those resources are > >>> reserved for properly functioning operation systems (and LXC > >>> containers!). > >>> > >>> I've got 3 doors at one location, then 2 more doors at 2 other > locations. > >>> > >>> If it has a mobile app, that's even better. > >>> > >>> I've installed a couple of HID Global and DoorKing systems in the > >>> past and nothing about this is hard, but the chinese systems are > >>> only made for a single location. > >>> > >>> Any suggestions? > > > > >
