That would be very different then... Very odd. On Mar 28, 2016 10:18 PM, "Nate Burke" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I think so, It's been a couple years since I hooked it up. I use mine > with only a striker, and i remember that there were a handful of wires that > I didn't need to hook up to anything. The only thing going to the door is > a Cat5. > > On 3/28/2016 9:46 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > >> Uh, the reader operates the striker/maglock and gets input from the >> door position sensor? >> >> On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 9:32 PM, Nate Burke <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> There is no controller, it stores everything in the reader. The >>> Software is >>> only used for configuration, or reading the access logs off the reader. >>> >>> On 3/28/2016 9:08 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: >>> >>>> What about the door controller? >>>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 9:04 PM, Nate Burke <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I contacted suprema, and they directed me to a local reseller. The >>>>> Reseller >>>>> had no problem selling me just the xpass no questions ask. I think they >>>>> were >>>>> about $350. Very easy to install and setup. >>>>> >>>>> On 3/28/2016 8:59 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Suprema looks pretty good.. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.supremainc.com/en/AccessControl-TimeandAttendance/Platform/BioStar-2-Mobile >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Sterling Jacobson >>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Your pretty much back to the windows database solution at this point. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can do this with the cheap Chinese boards in aggregate with their >>>>>>> software. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It’s not pretty, but it does what you want, multiple controllers, >>>>>>> software >>>>>>> with users and keys and time/scheduler etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All for a few hundred bucks per four doors using standard keypads and >>>>>>> locks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Otherwise, let us know if you find anything cool! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Would be nice to get a better turnkey solution that wasn’t based on >>>>>>> 90’s >>>>>>> >>>>>>> interface and DB paradigm. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 7:51 PM >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] door access control >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My access solution needs to have different access per user / door / >>>>>>> time >>>>>>> via >>>>>>> pin and keyfob, so can't really get something too simple due to >>>>>>> various >>>>>>> needs, contractors, etc. :/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mar 28, 2016 8:47 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You will all laugh but I just put in a wink and schlage locks. Not >>>>>>> exactly >>>>>>> a real security system since there is no keypad you can arm or >>>>>>> disarm. >>>>>>> You >>>>>>> can only do that through the app. One of my people doesn't have a new >>>>>>> enough >>>>>>> smartphone for the app. It allows you to use robots which are simple >>>>>>> if >>>>>>> then >>>>>>> logic. >>>>>>> I know it isn't difficult enough for many of you but it is cheap, >>>>>>> easy, >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> pretty. >>>>>>> A nice keypad would be a good pi project to round it out though. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 28, 2016, 7:32 PM Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You have a door strike. The magnetic systems can be no or nc. If you >>>>>>> loopback 12v from the keypad back to the doorcontroller, you can >>>>>>> often >>>>>>> trigger a fault state that releases power to the maglock. ;) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mar 28, 2016 7:11 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I’m pretty sure you could also just smash the glass and walk in >>>>>>> too J >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But the door strike on mine does go back to the controller I believe, >>>>>>> so >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> couldn’t just jimmy the keypad wiring. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Not really a high security scenario since my idea was to >>>>>>> theoretically >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> able to pay $5 and enter (then walk out with anything you like I >>>>>>> guess). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 6:07 PM >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] door access control >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also, pretty sure the one you have... If I remember right, I could >>>>>>> rip >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> keypad off and touch brown to red to open the door based on the >>>>>>> wiring >>>>>>> diagram. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mar 28, 2016 7:03 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've had the same problem. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The local alarm company wanted like $3-4k for a two door install, >>>>>>> lol! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here is what I did so far: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I bought a controller board off of eBay that does the standard >>>>>>> protocol >>>>>>> used >>>>>>> by the strike. >>>>>>> I bought the strike off ebay too. >>>>>>> I bought a keypad controller off eBay. >>>>>>> The controller came with a small locking box, and has room for a >>>>>>> battery >>>>>>> backup and can use PoE. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The whole thing cost less than $500 I think. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I used Ethernet to connect the box to my switch and to the strike and >>>>>>> keypad. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The controller has a simple web interface you log on to and then >>>>>>> add/remove >>>>>>> door codes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I did have to interpret some Chinese manuals to figure out the >>>>>>> pinouts >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> everything, but it works as expected. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What I have left to do is map the private IP of the controller to a >>>>>>> public >>>>>>> IP and firewall it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And then I wanted to write a service/web api to it so I could use a >>>>>>> up >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> date 'normal' API access to add/remove door codes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Let me know if you want more details. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 4:53 PM >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] door access control >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm dying here. Every single system I can find is shit or costs an >>>>>>> arm >>>>>>> and a >>>>>>> leg, to the point where I'm considering starting a company to make a >>>>>>> better >>>>>>> system. I just need an embedded, web based, IP access control system. >>>>>>> It >>>>>>> needs to be able to control the individual door access controllers to >>>>>>> electronic striker or maglock to the keypad. POE here is best. If it >>>>>>> requires software running on a windows PC then I don't want anything >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> do >>>>>>> with it, even for those of you who are like "put it in a vm"... no. >>>>>>> Those >>>>>>> resources are reserved for properly functioning operation systems >>>>>>> (and >>>>>>> LXC >>>>>>> containers!). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've got 3 doors at one location, then 2 more doors at 2 other >>>>>>> locations. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If it has a mobile app, that's even better. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've installed a couple of HID Global and DoorKing systems in the >>>>>>> past >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> nothing about this is hard, but the chinese systems are only made >>>>>>> for a >>>>>>> single location. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any suggestions? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >
