Well I have rather enjoyed the open discussion of politics as of late.  I
even enjoy watching people get their panties all wadded up.  Either way,
discussion and debate is good for the mind.

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 9:04 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

> My mind is not yet made up, do I vote or do I not...
>
> *From:* Glen Waldrop <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 07, 2016 9:02 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money
> Transfers toMexico - WSJ
>
> Agreed.
>
> At this point all it is doing is alienating people.
>
> No one is changing their mind.
>
> I haven’t followed this one very much but most of the rest quickly turn
> personal and cost people respect.
>
> There are some discussions, but mostly there are arguments. Both sides are
> just digging in their heels. Not worth it guys.
>
>
>
> *From:* Erich Kaiser <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 07, 2016 8:31 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money
> Transfers to Mexico - WSJ
>
> Maybe use POL instead of OT and I will just filter all of it to my Trash.
>
>
> Erich Kaiser
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> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 8:04 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Threaded mail clients FTW?!
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>> *From: *"Jason McKemie" <[email protected]>
>> *To: *[email protected]
>> *Sent: *Thursday, April 7, 2016 8:03:14 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money
>> Transfers to Mexico - WSJ
>>
>> It's always had a lot of OT discussion, politics just happens to be a hot
>> topic right now.
>>
>> On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Erich Kaiser <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I never reply to this stuff because I feel it is a personal opinion from
>>> experiences you have had in your own life, but what the heck happened to
>>> this list?   This was the list to go to for everything technical and now it
>>> has turned into a political war zone......
>>>
>>> This political rhetoric sucks!
>>>
>>> Erich Kaiser
>>> North Central Tower
>>> [email protected]
>>> Office: 630-621-4804
>>> Cell: 630-777-9291
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 1:24 AM, Jason McKemie <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well stated.
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Sean Heskett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "The Wall" is a stupid, ignorant and an expensive attempt to solve a
>>>>> non-issue...PERIOD!
>>>>>
>>>>> My great grandfather was an immigrant from Italy...when no one liked
>>>>> Italians.  Italy was poor and invading north africa his motivation  was 
>>>>> the
>>>>> same as all the South Americans coming here now (I say South Americans
>>>>> because most of the illegal immigrants are forms Countries south of 
>>>>> Mexico)
>>>>> He forbade my grandmother from learning Italian because at that time the
>>>>> Italians were looked down upon (early 1900's)
>>>>>
>>>>> Totally shameful that everyone has the "close the gate behind me"
>>>>> mentality.  America (not 'merica) is built on immigrants.  Those who have
>>>>> no compassion for the Syrians fleeing oppression or the South Americans
>>>>> migrating north for a better life are just plain stupid in my opinion.
>>>>>
>>>>> As a progressive liberal - yeah I said it and I'm fucking proud of
>>>>> being a progressive liberal - im so sick and tired of the agenda of this
>>>>> country being driven by this damn conservative minority who would rather
>>>>> see their neighbor fail. And yes it is a conservative minority because 
>>>>> they
>>>>> have to gerrymander districts and enact "voter ID" laws in order to win.
>>>>> Social security and Medicare/Medicade are vital to our well being and
>>>>> prevent the old, sick and poor from dying on the streets.
>>>>>
>>>>> I could go on and on but #fucktrump and #fuckcruze their policies and
>>>>> rhetoric have no place in a "civilized" society.
>>>>>
>>>>> What the happened to "love thy neighbor"?!?!?  Seriously WTF?
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't wait to see the republican convention contort itself into a
>>>>> million pieces...you reap what you sow.
>>>>>
>>>>> America is already fucking great!
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry for all the cursing but it really chaps my hide to see American
>>>>> politicians act this poorly.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2 cents
>>>>>
>>>>> -Sean
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, April 6, 2016, Paul McCall <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Guys,  I am not a Trump fan boy, so let’s make this disclaimer up
>>>>>> front.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However,  there is a LOT of street smarts in this guy.  The
>>>>>> negotiation is just that… a negotiation.  IF he gets in, and starts this
>>>>>> process and is bound and determined to make it happen, extremities can be
>>>>>> discussed (or thrown out there as shots across the bow), and then
>>>>>> adjustments get made.  The point of a wall WILL be built, coming from 
>>>>>> him,
>>>>>> gets it started, and having Mexico start to feel the pinch (in whatever 
>>>>>> way
>>>>>> that takes) will get people’s attention.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is “the wall” THE answer to immigration challenges?  Of course not.
>>>>>> Is it helpful and one part of the total solution needed?   absolutely.
>>>>>> There IS NO border with the U.S. right now.  What is there is a façade.
>>>>>> Trump is crude and I wish he would tone down the rhetoric a bit (for
>>>>>> everybody’s benefit, including himself), but this country needs action in
>>>>>> so, so many areas and nobody seems to have the gonads to do anything that
>>>>>> isn’t buried in PC or politics or corruption or power or all of the 
>>>>>> above.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I acknowledge that I may be naïve or optimistic on the subject.  But,
>>>>>> I *still believe in America* and its strength and there is been
>>>>>> absolutely nothing done in recent time to maintain or increase its
>>>>>> strength… only further dilution and division and flailing discourse at an
>>>>>> unprecedented level historically.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not a Trump fan, but “let’s have some balls and fix our country fan”
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 05, 2016 7:10 PM
>>>>>> *To:* Animal Farm
>>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money
>>>>>> Transfers to Mexico - WSJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What a fucking idiot idea....from a fucking idiot.... did I say
>>>>>> fucking idiot..oh yes I did
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-says-he-might-block-money-transfers-to-mexico-1459892237
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>
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