It's always had a lot of OT discussion, politics just happens to be a hot
topic right now.

On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Erich Kaiser <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I never reply to this stuff because I feel it is a personal opinion from
> experiences you have had in your own life, but what the heck happened to
> this list?   This was the list to go to for everything technical and now it
> has turned into a political war zone......
>
> This political rhetoric sucks!
>
> Erich Kaiser
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> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 1:24 AM, Jason McKemie <
> [email protected]
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:
>
>> Well stated.
>>
>> On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Sean Heskett <[email protected]
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:
>>
>>> "The Wall" is a stupid, ignorant and an expensive attempt to solve a
>>> non-issue...PERIOD!
>>>
>>> My great grandfather was an immigrant from Italy...when no one liked
>>> Italians.  Italy was poor and invading north africa his motivation  was the
>>> same as all the South Americans coming here now (I say South Americans
>>> because most of the illegal immigrants are forms Countries south
>>> of Mexico) He forbade my grandmother from learning Italian because at that
>>> time the Italians were looked down upon (early 1900's)
>>>
>>> Totally shameful that everyone has the "close the gate behind me"
>>> mentality.  America (not 'merica) is built on immigrants.  Those who have
>>> no compassion for the Syrians fleeing oppression or the South Americans
>>> migrating north for a better life are just plain stupid in my opinion.
>>>
>>> As a progressive liberal - yeah I said it and I'm fucking proud of being
>>> a progressive liberal - im so sick and tired of the agenda of this country
>>> being driven by this damn conservative minority who would rather see their
>>> neighbor fail. And yes it is a conservative minority because they have to
>>> gerrymander districts and enact "voter ID" laws in order to win.  Social
>>> security and Medicare/Medicade are vital to our well being and prevent the
>>> old, sick and poor from dying on the streets.
>>>
>>> I could go on and on but #fucktrump and #fuckcruze their policies and
>>> rhetoric have no place in a "civilized" society.
>>>
>>> What the happened to "love thy neighbor"?!?!?  Seriously WTF?
>>>
>>> I can't wait to see the republican convention contort itself into a
>>> million pieces...you reap what you sow.
>>>
>>> America is already fucking great!
>>>
>>> Sorry for all the cursing but it really chaps my hide to see American
>>> politicians act this poorly.
>>>
>>> 2 cents
>>>
>>> -Sean
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, April 6, 2016, Paul McCall <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Guys,  I am not a Trump fan boy, so let’s make this disclaimer up front.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> However,  there is a LOT of street smarts in this guy.  The negotiation
>>>> is just that… a negotiation.  IF he gets in, and starts this process and is
>>>> bound and determined to make it happen, extremities can be discussed (or
>>>> thrown out there as shots across the bow), and then adjustments get made.
>>>> The point of a wall WILL be built, coming from him, gets it started, and
>>>> having Mexico start to feel the pinch (in whatever way that takes) will get
>>>> people’s attention.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is “the wall” THE answer to immigration challenges?  Of course not.  Is
>>>> it helpful and one part of the total solution needed?   absolutely.  There
>>>> IS NO border with the U.S. right now.  What is there is a façade.  Trump is
>>>> crude and I wish he would tone down the rhetoric a bit (for everybody’s
>>>> benefit, including himself), but this country needs action in so, so many
>>>> areas and nobody seems to have the gonads to do anything that isn’t buried
>>>> in PC or politics or corruption or power or all of the above.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I acknowledge that I may be naïve or optimistic on the subject.  But, I 
>>>> *still
>>>> believe in America* and its strength and there is been absolutely
>>>> nothing done in recent time to maintain or increase its strength… only
>>>> further dilution and division and flailing discourse at an unprecedented
>>>> level historically.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not a Trump fan, but “let’s have some balls and fix our country fan”
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 05, 2016 7:10 PM
>>>> *To:* Animal Farm
>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money Transfers
>>>> to Mexico - WSJ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What a fucking idiot idea....from a fucking idiot.... did I say fucking
>>>> idiot..oh yes I did
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-says-he-might-block-money-transfers-to-mexico-1459892237
>>>>
>>>
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