https://politics.slashdot.org/story/16/04/02/1643249/how-to-hack-an-election
On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Sean Heskett <[email protected]> wrote: > Google search "Arizona voter suppression" http://bfy.tw/59O3 > > It just happened and it's for real folks. I can't believe there are > Americans that are ok with making it harder to vote. > > In Colorado we went to an all mail in ballot. Guess what, voter > participation is way up there are no long lines to go vote and the people > get to elect who they want. Oh and there is also no reports of any fraud. > > Sure am glad I live in a state that has strong American values towards > voting. > > -Sean > > > On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Cameron Crum <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I'm curious how any functioning adult lives life without an ID? Do they >> drive, buy tobacco, buy alcohol, buy prescription meds, have a bank >> account, have a job, travel on a plane, go to school, or any number of >> other things that require an ID almost daily? Your hyperbole about >> conservatives is just as bad as if I said the only reason you don't want >> voter id is so all the illegals can vote to keep your liberals in power. >> >> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Well... I'm all for keeping Mexicans from voting (as in citizens of >>> Mexico)... but if we're talking US citizens of Mexican descent, they >>> obviously have every bit as much right to vote as I do, whether I agree >>> with who they vote for or not... and I don't know anyone that thinks >>> otherwise. >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:34 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Opponents think it's to keep "Mexicans" from voting because we're all >>>> racist. >>>> >>>> Voting is little different with the second Amendment and they're just >>>> fine with that. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>> >>>> >>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From: *"Mathew Howard" <[email protected]> >>>> *To: *"af" <[email protected]> >>>> *Sent: *Thursday, April 7, 2016 11:32:17 AM >>>> >>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money >>>> Transfers to Mexico - WSJ >>>> >>>> While I'm not familiar with Texas' requirements, a quick google tells >>>> me they require one of the following: >>>> >>>> - Texas driver license issued by the Texas Department of Public >>>> Safety (DPS) >>>> - Texas Election Identification Certificate issued by DPS >>>> - Texas personal identification card issued by DPS >>>> - Texas license to carry a handgun issued by DPS >>>> - United States military identification card containing the >>>> person’s photograph >>>> - United States citizenship certificate containing the person’s >>>> photograph >>>> - United States passport >>>> >>>> Those are all government issued forms of photo ID... I don't really see >>>> anything inconsistent there. >>>> >>>> here in Wisconsin, at least some student ID's are acceptable... and >>>> there is a process for obtaining an ID card completely free if you can't >>>> pay for the necessary documentation. But as far as requiring a birth >>>> certificate to get an ID, how else do you go about proving that you're >>>> actually citizen? I really don't see anything unfair about requiring >>>> someone to prove they're a citizen to be eligible to vote. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Sean Heskett <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The 42 member "freedom caucus" in the house only exists because of >>>>> gerrymandering. They are in districts that are so skewed that only a >>>>> super >>>>> conservative "republican" could ever win. >>>>> >>>>> As for voter ID there is tons of evidence that absentee ballots have a >>>>> lot of voter fraud but in person voting the fraud is less than .01%. All >>>>> the voter ID laws are designed to suppress in person voting with an >>>>> illegal >>>>> "poll tax". Oh sure the ID might be "free" but the birth certificate you >>>>> need to produce costs money. Also in texas you can use your hunting or >>>>> fishing license but you can't use a student ID...even if the student ID >>>>> was >>>>> issued by a state school. >>>>> >>>>> Tell me exactly how those two things in this country are 1. Fair 2. >>>>> Make America great?!?! >>>>> >>>>> -Sean >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> "conservative minority" HAH! >>>>>> >>>>>> Most people are in the middle and couldn't give a shit less, while >>>>>> indeed a minority fight for or against most things. >>>>>> >>>>>> "Progressive liberals" often forget the difference between legal and >>>>>> illegal immigration. >>>>>> >>>>>> If the "conservative minority" is gerrymandering districts in >>>>>> Illinois, they sure aren't very good at it. Both parties gerrymander and >>>>>> it >>>>>> sucks. >>>>>> >>>>>> You need an ID to do almost everything else in your life, why should >>>>>> the most important thing be any different? >>>>>> >>>>>> BTW: I'd like to welcome unchecked emotion to a mostly logical >>>>>> conversation. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- >>>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> *From: *"Sean Heskett" <[email protected]> >>>>>> *To: *[email protected] >>>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, April 7, 2016 1:16:11 AM >>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money >>>>>> Transfers to Mexico - WSJ >>>>>> >>>>>> "The Wall" is a stupid, ignorant and an expensive attempt to solve a >>>>>> non-issue...PERIOD! >>>>>> >>>>>> My great grandfather was an immigrant from Italy...when no one liked >>>>>> Italians. Italy was poor and invading north africa his motivation was >>>>>> the >>>>>> same as all the South Americans coming here now (I say South Americans >>>>>> because most of the illegal immigrants are forms Countries south >>>>>> of Mexico) He forbade my grandmother from learning Italian because at >>>>>> that >>>>>> time the Italians were looked down upon (early 1900's) >>>>>> >>>>>> Totally shameful that everyone has the "close the gate behind me" >>>>>> mentality. America (not 'merica) is built on immigrants. Those who have >>>>>> no compassion for the Syrians fleeing oppression or the South Americans >>>>>> migrating north for a better life are just plain stupid in my opinion. >>>>>> >>>>>> As a progressive liberal - yeah I said it and I'm fucking proud of >>>>>> being a progressive liberal - im so sick and tired of the agenda of this >>>>>> country being driven by this damn conservative minority who would rather >>>>>> see their neighbor fail. And yes it is a conservative minority because >>>>>> they >>>>>> have to gerrymander districts and enact "voter ID" laws in order to >>>>>> win. Social security and Medicare/Medicade are vital to our well being >>>>>> and >>>>>> prevent the old, sick and poor from dying on the streets. >>>>>> >>>>>> I could go on and on but #fucktrump and #fuckcruze their policies and >>>>>> rhetoric have no place in a "civilized" society. >>>>>> >>>>>> What the happened to "love thy neighbor"?!?!? Seriously WTF? >>>>>> >>>>>> I can't wait to see the republican convention contort itself into a >>>>>> million pieces...you reap what you sow. >>>>>> >>>>>> America is already fucking great! >>>>>> >>>>>> Sorry for all the cursing but it really chaps my hide to see American >>>>>> politicians act this poorly. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2 cents >>>>>> >>>>>> -Sean >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wednesday, April 6, 2016, Paul McCall <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Guys, I am not a Trump fan boy, so let’s make this disclaimer up >>>>>>> front. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> However, there is a LOT of street smarts in this guy. The >>>>>>> negotiation is just that… a negotiation. IF he gets in, and starts this >>>>>>> process and is bound and determined to make it happen, extremities can >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> discussed (or thrown out there as shots across the bow), and then >>>>>>> adjustments get made. The point of a wall WILL be built, coming from >>>>>>> him, >>>>>>> gets it started, and having Mexico start to feel the pinch (in whatever >>>>>>> way >>>>>>> that takes) will get people’s attention. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is “the wall” THE answer to immigration challenges? Of course not. >>>>>>> Is it helpful and one part of the total solution needed? absolutely. >>>>>>> There IS NO border with the U.S. right now. What is there is a façade. >>>>>>> Trump is crude and I wish he would tone down the rhetoric a bit (for >>>>>>> everybody’s benefit, including himself), but this country needs action >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> so, so many areas and nobody seems to have the gonads to do anything >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> isn’t buried in PC or politics or corruption or power or all of the >>>>>>> above. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I acknowledge that I may be naïve or optimistic on the subject. >>>>>>> But, I *still believe in America* and its strength and there is >>>>>>> been absolutely nothing done in recent time to maintain or increase its >>>>>>> strength… only further dilution and division and flailing discourse at >>>>>>> an >>>>>>> unprecedented level historically. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Not a Trump fan, but “let’s have some balls and fix our country fan” >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Paul >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jaime >>>>>>> Solorza >>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 05, 2016 7:10 PM >>>>>>> *To:* Animal Farm >>>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money >>>>>>> Transfers to Mexico - WSJ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What a fucking idiot idea....from a fucking idiot.... did I say >>>>>>> fucking idiot..oh yes I did >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-says-he-might-block-money-transfers-to-mexico-1459892237 >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>
