That's what I can't understand... how the heck can anyone function without an ID?
On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 1:15 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < [email protected]> wrote: > How do poor people identify themselves for medical cards, food stamps, > housing assistance, housing leases for that matter, and any of the other > things the poor are entitled to? > > It would seem to me, that if poor people are unable to attain > identification solely on the basis of being poor, they would all starve to > death, without any shelter, since they are unable to be identified. > > Why are there so many obese poor people if they arent being fed because > their financial situation dictates the inability to be identified? > > On that same note, how are poor criminals being incarcerated since their > financial status disallows any mechanism for identification? > > On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Sean Heskett <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Well the "premiss" of these laws it to prevent fraud. What actually >> happens because of the way they are written is that young and poor people >> end up having problems voting. >> >> I shouldn't have said black I should have said poor. Not all black >> people are poor and not all poor people are black. But the majority of >> people below the poverty line happen to be black. >> >> -Sean >> >> On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Jay Weekley <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Are blacks supposed to have a different ID than whites? >>> >>> Sean Heskett wrote: >>> >>>> Also Wisconsin's voter ID law worked as intended to suppress the >>>> student and black vote. >>>> >>>> Yay 'Merica 🇺🇸 >>>> >>>> http://www.thenation.com/article/wisconsins-voter-id-law-caused-major-problems-at-the-polls-last-night/ >>>> >>>> -Sean >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Mathew Howard <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> While I'm not familiar with Texas' requirements, a quick google >>>> tells me they require one of the following: >>>> >>>> * Texas driver license issued by the Texas Department of Public >>>> Safety (DPS) >>>> * Texas Election Identification Certificate issued by DPS >>>> * Texas personal identification card issued by DPS >>>> * Texas license to carry a handgun issued by DPS >>>> * United States military identification card containing the >>>> person’s photograph >>>> * United States citizenship certificate containing the person’s >>>> photograph >>>> * United States passport >>>> >>>> Those are all government issued forms of photo ID... I don't >>>> really see anything inconsistent there. >>>> >>>> here in Wisconsin, at least some student ID's are acceptable... >>>> and there is a process for obtaining an ID card completely free if >>>> you can't pay for the necessary documentation. But as far as >>>> requiring a birth certificate to get an ID, how else do you go >>>> about proving that you're actually citizen? I really don't see >>>> anything unfair about requiring someone to prove they're a citizen >>>> to be eligible to vote. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Sean Heskett <[email protected] >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: >>>> >>>> The 42 member "freedom caucus" in the house only exists >>>> because of gerrymandering. They are in districts that are so >>>> skewed that only a super conservative "republican" could ever >>>> win. >>>> >>>> As for voter ID there is tons of evidence that absentee >>>> ballots have a lot of voter fraud but in person voting the >>>> fraud is less than .01%. All the voter ID laws are designed >>>> to suppress in person voting with an illegal "poll tax". Oh >>>> sure the ID might be "free" but the birth certificate you need >>>> to produce costs money. Also in texas you can use your >>>> hunting or fishing license but you can't use a student >>>> ID...even if the student ID was issued by a state school. >>>> >>>> Tell me exactly how those two things in this country are 1. >>>> Fair 2. Make America great?!?! >>>> >>>> -Sean >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Mike Hammett <[email protected] >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: >>>> >>>> "conservative minority" HAH! >>>> >>>> Most people are in the middle and couldn't give a shit >>>> less, while indeed a minority fight for or against most >>>> things. >>>> >>>> "Progressive liberals" often forget the difference between >>>> legal and illegal immigration. >>>> >>>> If the "conservative minority" is gerrymandering districts >>>> in Illinois, they sure aren't very good at it. Both >>>> parties gerrymander and it sucks. >>>> >>>> You need an ID to do almost everything else in your life, >>>> why should the most important thing be any different? >>>> >>>> BTW: I'd like to welcome unchecked emotion to a mostly >>>> logical conversation. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>< >>>> https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>< >>>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>< >>>> https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>< >>>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>< >>>> https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>> >>>> >>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> *From: *"Sean Heskett" <[email protected]> >>>> *To: *[email protected] >>>> *Sent: *Thursday, April 7, 2016 1:16:11 AM >>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block >>>> >>>> Money Transfers to Mexico - WSJ >>>> >>>> "The Wall" is a stupid, ignorant and an expensive attempt >>>> to solve a non-issue...PERIOD! >>>> >>>> My great grandfather was an immigrant from Italy...when no >>>> one liked Italians. Italy was poor and invading north >>>> africa his motivation was the same as all the South >>>> Americans coming here now (I say South Americans because >>>> most of the illegal immigrants are forms Countries south >>>> of Mexico) He forbade my grandmother from learning Italian >>>> because at that time the Italians were looked down upon >>>> (early 1900's) >>>> >>>> Totally shameful that everyone has the "close the gate >>>> behind me" mentality. America (not 'merica) is built on >>>> immigrants. Those who have no compassion for the Syrians >>>> fleeing oppression or the South Americans migrating north >>>> for a better life are just plain stupid in my opinion. >>>> >>>> As a progressive liberal - yeah I said it and I'm fucking >>>> proud of being a progressive liberal - im so sick and >>>> tired of the agenda of this country being driven by this >>>> damn conservative minority who would rather see their >>>> neighbor fail. And yes it is a conservative minority >>>> because they have to gerrymander districts and enact >>>> "voter ID" laws in order to win. Social security and >>>> Medicare/Medicade are vital to our well being and prevent >>>> the old, sick and poor from dying on the streets. >>>> >>>> I could go on and on but #fucktrump and #fuckcruze their >>>> policies and rhetoric have no place in a "civilized" >>>> society. >>>> >>>> What the happened to "love thy neighbor"?!?!? Seriously >>>> WTF? >>>> >>>> I can't wait to see the republican convention contort >>>> itself into a million pieces...you reap what you sow. >>>> >>>> America is already fucking great! >>>> >>>> Sorry for all the cursing but it really chaps my hide to >>>> see American politicians act this poorly. >>>> >>>> 2 cents >>>> >>>> -Sean >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, April 6, 2016, Paul McCall >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Guys, I am not a Trump fan boy, so let’s make this >>>> disclaimer up front. >>>> >>>> However, there is a LOT of street smarts in this guy. >>>> The negotiation is just that… a negotiation. IF he >>>> gets in, and starts this process and is bound and >>>> determined to make it happen, extremities can be >>>> discussed (or thrown out there as shots across the >>>> bow), and then adjustments get made. The point of a >>>> wall WILL be built, coming from him, gets it started, >>>> and having Mexico start to feel the pinch (in whatever >>>> way that takes) will get people’s attention. >>>> >>>> Is “the wall” THE answer to immigration challenges? >>>> Of course not. Is it helpful and one part of the >>>> total solution needed? absolutely. There IS NO >>>> border with the U.S. right now. What is there is a >>>> façade. Trump is crude and I wish he would tone down >>>> the rhetoric a bit (for everybody’s benefit, including >>>> himself), but this country needs action in so, so many >>>> areas and nobody seems to have the gonads to do >>>> anything that isn’t buried in PC or politics or >>>> corruption or power or all of the above. >>>> >>>> I acknowledge that I may be naïve or optimistic on the >>>> subject. But, I /still believe in America/ and its >>>> strength and there is been absolutely nothing done in >>>> recent time to maintain or increase its strength… only >>>> further dilution and division and flailing discourse >>>> at an unprecedented level historically. >>>> >>>> Not a Trump fan, but “let’s have some balls and fix >>>> our country fan” >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of >>>> *Jaime Solorza >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 05, 2016 7:10 PM >>>> *To:* Animal Farm >>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block >>>> Money Transfers to Mexico - WSJ >>>> >>>> What a fucking idiot idea....from a fucking idiot.... >>>> did I say fucking idiot..oh yes I did >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-says-he-might-block-money-transfers-to-mexico-1459892237 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> > > > -- > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team > as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >
