I'll agree with keeping government out of the religion business no matter
if it is schools or whatever. Religion is already screwed up enough without
getting government involved. I guess I don't spend enough time around
racist guys. What a bummer.

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 4:03 PM Jaime Solorza <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Lewis..it happens in Texas everyday.....even in high school
> sports....research Texas AM visit by kids from Dallas, remember kid with
> clock, WestLake vs Pflugerville where N word yelled at Pflugerville team,
> Socorro Baseball State Championship game versus WestLake---calling kidsm
> beaners and wetbacks, etc...
> Hell Odessa is still pretty racists....and last year my son and I were
> having breakfast at Lori's in Midland at counter next to three gentlemen
> talking real loud about beaners and spiks, plus tearing Obama a new
> one....blah blah...until my son asked them if any of them had served in the
> military?   Nope...my son politely told he had served two tours in Iraq,
> lost good friends and could they please lower their voices as he was trying
> to enjoy his breakfast and didn't want to me to get upset.    They didn't
> say a thing until we left....the cook heard us ad our meal was free.   BTW,
> he was white.    So Lewis, our state needs to progress a bit more in that
> respect...and as much as I hate to say it, my children's mom is a Perry and
> second cousin to our past governor.   That is the family secret we
> hold....like that crazy uncle everyone seems to have...even though I have
> trained my children in hand to hand self defense, I have always said
> Education is the key....There is a school in our 2nd ward that teaches kids
> from poor neighborhood advanced studies and technology.   Their motto, "Out
> of the Barrio with an education !!"
> That is what our country needs, better educated kids with a world view not
> marred by religious zealots.   Parents should teach children about God and
> religion or send them to a private religious school, but not public
> schools....as far as I can recall we are still have separation of Church
> and State in Constitution.   Also keep an eye out for trucks all around
> Texas with Confederate Flag, Mud Flaps, or bumper Stickers...we saw 4 in
> Amarillo this past January while working in Borger.
>
>
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390
>
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 12:37 PM, Lewis Bergman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Jaime, you say that like it happened yesterday. Do you think that Texas,
>> and by that I guess those sitting in power today, are actively trying to
>> dissuade minority voting? Other than what falls under gerrymandering like
>> everyone else has already mentioned.
>>
>> Having said that, I wish it was legal to prevent those who don't pay
>> taxes from voting. Not sure anything would be different but I think if you
>> are going to help decide how the money gets spent you should have to
>> contribute some of it.
>>
>> OK. Start the all caps yelliing.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:59 AM Jaime Solorza <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Texas has a track record of keeping African Americans and Mexican
>>> Americans from voting and getting equal access to education.    They used
>>> all kinds of tactics including taxes to do it.   I tried telling the
>>> students at Tornillo High School to study what Chicano students did in
>>> California to fight for better education.  We did same in El Paso....told
>>> them to register and vote...Trump has gotten allot of Hispanics to go vote!
>>> Guess he did something right....ha
>>> On Apr 7, 2016 10:34 AM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Opponents think it's to keep "Mexicans" from voting because we're all
>>> racist.
>>>
>>> Voting is little different with the second Amendment and they're just
>>> fine with that.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
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>>>
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>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From: *"Mathew Howard" <[email protected]>
>>> *To: *"af" <[email protected]>
>>> *Sent: *Thursday, April 7, 2016 11:32:17 AM
>>>
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money
>>> Transfers to Mexico - WSJ
>>>
>>> While I'm not familiar with Texas' requirements, a quick google tells me
>>> they require one of the following:
>>>
>>>    - Texas driver license issued by the Texas Department of Public
>>>    Safety (DPS)
>>>    - Texas Election Identification Certificate issued by DPS
>>>    - Texas personal identification card issued by DPS
>>>    - Texas license to carry a handgun issued by DPS
>>>    - United States military identification card containing the person’s
>>>    photograph
>>>    - United States citizenship certificate containing the person’s
>>>    photograph
>>>    - United States passport
>>>
>>> Those are all government issued forms of photo ID... I don't really see
>>> anything inconsistent there.
>>>
>>> here in Wisconsin, at least some student ID's are acceptable... and
>>> there is a process for obtaining an ID card completely free if you can't
>>> pay for the necessary documentation. But as far as requiring a birth
>>> certificate to get an ID, how else do you go about proving that you're
>>> actually citizen? I really don't see anything unfair about requiring
>>> someone to prove they're a citizen to be eligible to vote.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Sean Heskett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The 42 member "freedom caucus" in the house only exists because of
>>>> gerrymandering.  They are in districts that are so skewed that only a super
>>>> conservative "republican" could ever win.
>>>>
>>>> As for voter ID there is tons of evidence that absentee ballots have a
>>>> lot of voter fraud but in person voting the fraud is less than .01%.  All
>>>> the voter ID laws are designed to suppress in person voting with an illegal
>>>> "poll tax".  Oh sure the ID might be "free" but the birth certificate you
>>>> need to produce costs money.  Also in texas you can use your hunting or
>>>> fishing license but you can't use a student ID...even if the student ID was
>>>> issued by a state school.
>>>>
>>>> Tell me exactly how those two things in this country are 1. Fair 2.
>>>> Make America great?!?!
>>>>
>>>> -Sean
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "conservative minority" HAH!
>>>>>
>>>>> Most people are in the middle and couldn't give a shit less, while
>>>>> indeed a minority fight for or against most things.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Progressive liberals" often forget the difference between legal and
>>>>> illegal immigration.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the "conservative minority" is gerrymandering districts in
>>>>> Illinois, they sure aren't very good at it. Both parties gerrymander and 
>>>>> it
>>>>> sucks.
>>>>>
>>>>> You need an ID to do almost everything else in your life, why should
>>>>> the most important thing be any different?
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW: I'd like to welcome unchecked emotion to a mostly logical
>>>>> conversation.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----
>>>>> Mike Hammett
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>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
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>>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
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>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> *From: *"Sean Heskett" <[email protected]>
>>>>> *To: *[email protected]
>>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, April 7, 2016 1:16:11 AM
>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money
>>>>> Transfers to Mexico - WSJ
>>>>>
>>>>> "The Wall" is a stupid, ignorant and an expensive attempt to solve a
>>>>> non-issue...PERIOD!
>>>>>
>>>>> My great grandfather was an immigrant from Italy...when no one liked
>>>>> Italians.  Italy was poor and invading north africa his motivation  was 
>>>>> the
>>>>> same as all the South Americans coming here now (I say South Americans
>>>>> because most of the illegal immigrants are forms Countries south
>>>>> of Mexico) He forbade my grandmother from learning Italian because at that
>>>>> time the Italians were looked down upon (early 1900's)
>>>>>
>>>>> Totally shameful that everyone has the "close the gate behind me"
>>>>> mentality.  America (not 'merica) is built on immigrants.  Those who have
>>>>> no compassion for the Syrians fleeing oppression or the South Americans
>>>>> migrating north for a better life are just plain stupid in my opinion.
>>>>>
>>>>> As a progressive liberal - yeah I said it and I'm fucking proud of
>>>>> being a progressive liberal - im so sick and tired of the agenda of this
>>>>> country being driven by this damn conservative minority who would rather
>>>>> see their neighbor fail. And yes it is a conservative minority because 
>>>>> they
>>>>> have to gerrymander districts and enact "voter ID" laws in order to
>>>>> win.  Social security and Medicare/Medicade are vital to our well being 
>>>>> and
>>>>> prevent the old, sick and poor from dying on the streets.
>>>>>
>>>>> I could go on and on but #fucktrump and #fuckcruze their policies and
>>>>> rhetoric have no place in a "civilized" society.
>>>>>
>>>>> What the happened to "love thy neighbor"?!?!?  Seriously WTF?
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't wait to see the republican convention contort itself into a
>>>>> million pieces...you reap what you sow.
>>>>>
>>>>> America is already fucking great!
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry for all the cursing but it really chaps my hide to see American
>>>>> politicians act this poorly.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2 cents
>>>>>
>>>>> -Sean
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, April 6, 2016, Paul McCall <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Guys,  I am not a Trump fan boy, so let’s make this disclaimer up
>>>>>> front.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However,  there is a LOT of street smarts in this guy.  The
>>>>>> negotiation is just that… a negotiation.  IF he gets in, and starts this
>>>>>> process and is bound and determined to make it happen, extremities can be
>>>>>> discussed (or thrown out there as shots across the bow), and then
>>>>>> adjustments get made.  The point of a wall WILL be built, coming from 
>>>>>> him,
>>>>>> gets it started, and having Mexico start to feel the pinch (in whatever 
>>>>>> way
>>>>>> that takes) will get people’s attention.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is “the wall” THE answer to immigration challenges?  Of course not.
>>>>>> Is it helpful and one part of the total solution needed?   absolutely.
>>>>>> There IS NO border with the U.S. right now.  What is there is a façade.
>>>>>> Trump is crude and I wish he would tone down the rhetoric a bit (for
>>>>>> everybody’s benefit, including himself), but this country needs action in
>>>>>> so, so many areas and nobody seems to have the gonads to do anything that
>>>>>> isn’t buried in PC or politics or corruption or power or all of the 
>>>>>> above.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I acknowledge that I may be naïve or optimistic on the subject.  But,
>>>>>> I *still believe in America* and its strength and there is been
>>>>>> absolutely nothing done in recent time to maintain or increase its
>>>>>> strength… only further dilution and division and flailing discourse at an
>>>>>> unprecedented level historically.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not a Trump fan, but “let’s have some balls and fix our country fan”
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 05, 2016 7:10 PM
>>>>>> *To:* Animal Farm
>>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money
>>>>>> Transfers to Mexico - WSJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What a fucking idiot idea....from a fucking idiot.... did I say
>>>>>> fucking idiot..oh yes I did
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-says-he-might-block-money-transfers-to-mexico-1459892237
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>

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