can't be any worse than some voters,,,,,if we needed intelligence and common sense to vote, Trumps and Cruzados numbers would drop
ducking Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 5:01 PM, Carl Peterson <[email protected]> wrote: > There are areas of Baltimore where I would venture that more then 75% of > 18-20 year olds have no state ID and likely have no idea how, or means, to > obtain one. Should they be allowed to vote? > > On Apr 7, 2016, at 12:49 PM, Cameron Crum <[email protected]> wrote: > > I'm curious how any functioning adult lives life without an ID? Do they > drive, buy tobacco, buy alcohol, buy prescription meds, have a bank > account, have a job, travel on a plane, go to school, or any number of > other things that require an ID almost daily? Your hyperbole about > conservatives is just as bad as if I said the only reason you don't want > voter id is so all the illegals can vote to keep your liberals in power. > > On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Well... I'm all for keeping Mexicans from voting (as in citizens of >> Mexico)... but if we're talking US citizens of Mexican descent, they >> obviously have every bit as much right to vote as I do, whether I agree >> with who they vote for or not... and I don't know anyone that thinks >> otherwise. >> >> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:34 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Opponents think it's to keep "Mexicans" from voting because we're all >>> racist. >>> >>> Voting is little different with the second Amendment and they're just >>> fine with that. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>> >>> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *"Mathew Howard" <[email protected]> >>> *To: *"af" <[email protected]> >>> *Sent: *Thursday, April 7, 2016 11:32:17 AM >>> >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money >>> Transfers to Mexico - WSJ >>> >>> While I'm not familiar with Texas' requirements, a quick google tells me >>> they require one of the following: >>> >>> - Texas driver license issued by the Texas Department of Public >>> Safety (DPS) >>> - Texas Election Identification Certificate issued by DPS >>> - Texas personal identification card issued by DPS >>> - Texas license to carry a handgun issued by DPS >>> - United States military identification card containing the person’s >>> photograph >>> - United States citizenship certificate containing the person’s >>> photograph >>> - United States passport >>> >>> Those are all government issued forms of photo ID... I don't really see >>> anything inconsistent there. >>> >>> here in Wisconsin, at least some student ID's are acceptable... and >>> there is a process for obtaining an ID card completely free if you can't >>> pay for the necessary documentation. But as far as requiring a birth >>> certificate to get an ID, how else do you go about proving that you're >>> actually citizen? I really don't see anything unfair about requiring >>> someone to prove they're a citizen to be eligible to vote. >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Sean Heskett <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> The 42 member "freedom caucus" in the house only exists because of >>>> gerrymandering. They are in districts that are so skewed that only a super >>>> conservative "republican" could ever win. >>>> >>>> As for voter ID there is tons of evidence that absentee ballots have a >>>> lot of voter fraud but in person voting the fraud is less than .01%. All >>>> the voter ID laws are designed to suppress in person voting with an illegal >>>> "poll tax". Oh sure the ID might be "free" but the birth certificate you >>>> need to produce costs money. Also in texas you can use your hunting or >>>> fishing license but you can't use a student ID...even if the student ID was >>>> issued by a state school. >>>> >>>> Tell me exactly how those two things in this country are 1. Fair 2. >>>> Make America great?!?! >>>> >>>> -Sean >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> "conservative minority" HAH! >>>>> >>>>> Most people are in the middle and couldn't give a shit less, while >>>>> indeed a minority fight for or against most things. >>>>> >>>>> "Progressive liberals" often forget the difference between legal and >>>>> illegal immigration. >>>>> >>>>> If the "conservative minority" is gerrymandering districts in >>>>> Illinois, they sure aren't very good at it. Both parties gerrymander and >>>>> it >>>>> sucks. >>>>> >>>>> You need an ID to do almost everything else in your life, why should >>>>> the most important thing be any different? >>>>> >>>>> BTW: I'd like to welcome unchecked emotion to a mostly logical >>>>> conversation. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- >>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> *From: *"Sean Heskett" <[email protected]> >>>>> *To: *[email protected] >>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, April 7, 2016 1:16:11 AM >>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money >>>>> Transfers to Mexico - WSJ >>>>> >>>>> "The Wall" is a stupid, ignorant and an expensive attempt to solve a >>>>> non-issue...PERIOD! >>>>> >>>>> My great grandfather was an immigrant from Italy...when no one liked >>>>> Italians. Italy was poor and invading north africa his motivation was >>>>> the >>>>> same as all the South Americans coming here now (I say South Americans >>>>> because most of the illegal immigrants are forms Countries south >>>>> of Mexico) He forbade my grandmother from learning Italian because at that >>>>> time the Italians were looked down upon (early 1900's) >>>>> >>>>> Totally shameful that everyone has the "close the gate behind me" >>>>> mentality. America (not 'merica) is built on immigrants. Those who have >>>>> no compassion for the Syrians fleeing oppression or the South Americans >>>>> migrating north for a better life are just plain stupid in my opinion. >>>>> >>>>> As a progressive liberal - yeah I said it and I'm fucking proud of >>>>> being a progressive liberal - im so sick and tired of the agenda of this >>>>> country being driven by this damn conservative minority who would rather >>>>> see their neighbor fail. And yes it is a conservative minority because >>>>> they >>>>> have to gerrymander districts and enact "voter ID" laws in order to >>>>> win. Social security and Medicare/Medicade are vital to our well being >>>>> and >>>>> prevent the old, sick and poor from dying on the streets. >>>>> >>>>> I could go on and on but #fucktrump and #fuckcruze their policies and >>>>> rhetoric have no place in a "civilized" society. >>>>> >>>>> What the happened to "love thy neighbor"?!?!? Seriously WTF? >>>>> >>>>> I can't wait to see the republican convention contort itself into a >>>>> million pieces...you reap what you sow. >>>>> >>>>> America is already fucking great! >>>>> >>>>> Sorry for all the cursing but it really chaps my hide to see American >>>>> politicians act this poorly. >>>>> >>>>> 2 cents >>>>> >>>>> -Sean >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, April 6, 2016, Paul McCall <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Guys, I am not a Trump fan boy, so let’s make this disclaimer up >>>>>> front. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> However, there is a LOT of street smarts in this guy. The >>>>>> negotiation is just that… a negotiation. IF he gets in, and starts this >>>>>> process and is bound and determined to make it happen, extremities can be >>>>>> discussed (or thrown out there as shots across the bow), and then >>>>>> adjustments get made. The point of a wall WILL be built, coming from >>>>>> him, >>>>>> gets it started, and having Mexico start to feel the pinch (in whatever >>>>>> way >>>>>> that takes) will get people’s attention. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Is “the wall” THE answer to immigration challenges? Of course not. >>>>>> Is it helpful and one part of the total solution needed? absolutely. >>>>>> There IS NO border with the U.S. right now. What is there is a façade. >>>>>> Trump is crude and I wish he would tone down the rhetoric a bit (for >>>>>> everybody’s benefit, including himself), but this country needs action in >>>>>> so, so many areas and nobody seems to have the gonads to do anything that >>>>>> isn’t buried in PC or politics or corruption or power or all of the >>>>>> above. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I acknowledge that I may be naïve or optimistic on the subject. But, >>>>>> I *still believe in America* and its strength and there is been >>>>>> absolutely nothing done in recent time to maintain or increase its >>>>>> strength… only further dilution and division and flailing discourse at an >>>>>> unprecedented level historically. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Not a Trump fan, but “let’s have some balls and fix our country fan” >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Paul >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza >>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 05, 2016 7:10 PM >>>>>> *To:* Animal Farm >>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money >>>>>> Transfers to Mexico - WSJ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> What a fucking idiot idea....from a fucking idiot.... did I say >>>>>> fucking idiot..oh yes I did >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-says-he-might-block-money-transfers-to-mexico-1459892237 >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >> >
