Strange no one wants landline phone, but they want a giant TV that you can only 
watch at home, using Internet that only works at home.  Seems like a dead end 
technology to me.  Only good for seniors and kids.

Some movie theaters by me have servers that bring actual food and drinks, the 
screen is humongous, and I’m told it doesn’t use the Internet at all.  Maybe 
that is the next big thing.  What will we do with all those gigabit fiber links 
to our houses when no one wants them anymore, like landlines and pay phones.  
Oh, right, the Internet of things.  Our things will watch TV while we’re at 
work.


From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 1:33 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber ends free 5Mbps Internet offer in Kansas 
City| Ars Technica

Me thinks he is one of them millennials.


bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 4/10/2016 4:13 PM, Josh Baird wrote:

  So you are doing 3-4TB/month to your house?  


  That's a *bit* on the high side, I would think.

  On Apr 10, 2016, at 6:57 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:


    My house runs between 10-15 Mbps sustained. When we do our 4K upgrade next 
year, that will be between 50-75Mbps sustained depending on HDR/non-hdr content 
and codec type.

    On Apr 10, 2016 5:34 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:

      Me too. Just checked our traffic, and we've actually got a 95th 
percentile of less than 500 Kbps (although in November/December we were running 
closer to 1.5 Mbps). We can go way higher than that due mostly to where we are 
on the network, but we can't (or don't choose to) saturate our online-ness like 
a millennial.


bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 4/10/2016 3:24 PM, George Skorup wrote:

        I can get 30Mbps at home on my 450. I might hit 25-30 to download 
windows updates or a game patch or something, but my average is less than a 
meg. Would I notice if I had only 10Mbps, probably not. And yeah, mine is free. 
:)

        I guess I'm just not an average millennial. Meh.


        On 4/10/2016 5:06 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

          I’m talking about Comcast’s $10 Internet Essentials.
          https://internetessentials.com/

          Available if child qualifies for school lunch program.  Not a 
contract or promo price.  And you don’t have to live in public housing.

          I do realize typical residential pricing is around $50/mo.  What I’m 
saying is the “free” price was ridiculous, especially since Google Fiber is so 
holier-than-thou showing the other ISPs how it’s done.  It was either a stunt 
to get municipal approval, or they honestly believed 10 Mbps was so lame that 
most people would rather pay for gigabit.

          No matter what their logic, increasing your minimum tier from $0 to 
$50 is a helluva price increase.  It would certainly seem to offer the local 
cable and telephone companies an opportunity to offer 10 Mbps at something less 
than $50, maybe around $30.  And maybe get some cable TV revenue.  Because lots 
of people will still be happy with a meager 10 Mbps if it’s affordable, no 
matter what the elites think.  Just like some people are fine with French’s 
mustard instead of Grey Poupon, and beer instead of wine.


          From: Josh Reynolds 
          Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 4:45 PM
          To: af@afmug.com 
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber ends free 5Mbps Internet offer in 
Kansas City| Ars Technica

          I am under the impression you are not familiar with common metro 
broadband pricing.

          Honestly.

          I have a rather large spreadsheet of major North American fiber / 
cable / DSL providers, contracts, misc fees, etc.

          Once you get past the "contract promo" pricing, seeing 10Mbps for 
$45-55+ a month is far from uncommon - especially for the cable cos, which 
sucks when you see that 10Mbps stay at 2-4Mbps during peak because of how 
vastly over provisioned much of those networks are.

          That said, their 1Gbps pricing (which they want customers on, as gpon 
ports aren't free in the strategic sense) really stoked a fire under most of 
the providers asses.

          On Apr 10, 2016 4:38 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

            Free was silly.  But hiking the minimum tier from $0 to $50 is kind 
of extreme.  They must have been surprised how many people were OK with a mere 
10 Mbps at America’s favorite price.

            Comcast’s $10 price is more reasonable than either $0 or $50.


            From: Jaime Solorza 
            Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 2:31 PM
            To: Animal Farm 
            Subject: [AFMUG] Google Fiber ends free 5Mbps Internet offer in 
Kansas City| Ars Technica

            
http://arstechnica.com/business/2016/04/google-fiber-ends-free-5mbps-internet-offer-in-kansas-city/






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