Oh hell no.  They got it about a week ahead but the computer couldn't play
it until activation time.  Same name as the really really big screens, it
eludes me right now...

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
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On Apr 11, 2016 9:43 AM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

> Interesting.  I’m guessing not live streamed though?
>
> *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, April 11, 2016 8:14 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber ends free 5Mbps Internet offer in
> Kansas City| Ars Technica
>
>
> They get their movies through the Internet actually...
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Apr 11, 2016 9:12 AM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
>> Strange no one wants landline phone, but they want a giant TV that you
>> can only watch at home, using Internet that only works at home.  Seems like
>> a dead end technology to me.  Only good for seniors and kids.
>>
>> Some movie theaters by me have servers that bring actual food and drinks,
>> the screen is humongous, and I’m told it doesn’t use the Internet at all.
>> Maybe that is the next big thing.  What will we do with all those gigabit
>> fiber links to our houses when no one wants them anymore, like landlines
>> and pay phones.  Oh, right, the Internet of things.  Our things will watch
>> TV while we’re at work.
>>
>>
>> *From:* Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Monday, April 11, 2016 1:33 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber ends free 5Mbps Internet offer in
>> Kansas City| Ars Technica
>>
>> Me thinks he is one of them millennials.
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>>
>> On 4/10/2016 4:13 PM, Josh Baird wrote:
>>
>> So you are doing 3-4TB/month to your house?
>>
>> That's a *bit* on the high side, I would think.
>>
>> On Apr 10, 2016, at 6:57 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>>
>> My house runs between 10-15 Mbps sustained. When we do our 4K upgrade
>> next year, that will be between 50-75Mbps sustained depending on
>> HDR/non-hdr content and codec type.
>> On Apr 10, 2016 5:34 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Me too. Just checked our traffic, and we've actually got a 95th
>>> percentile of less than 500 Kbps (although in November/December we were
>>> running closer to 1.5 Mbps). We can go way higher than that due mostly to
>>> where we are on the network, but we can't (or don't choose to) saturate our
>>> online-ness like a millennial.
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/10/2016 3:24 PM, George Skorup wrote:
>>>
>>> I can get 30Mbps at home on my 450. I might hit 25-30 to download
>>> windows updates or a game patch or something, but my average is less than a
>>> meg. Would I notice if I had only 10Mbps, probably not. And yeah, mine is
>>> free. :)
>>>
>>> I guess I'm just not an average millennial. Meh.
>>>
>>> On 4/10/2016 5:06 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>
>>> I’m talking about Comcast’s $10 Internet Essentials.
>>> https://internetessentials.com/
>>>
>>> Available if child qualifies for school lunch program.  Not a contract
>>> or promo price.  And you don’t have to live in public housing.
>>>
>>> I do realize typical residential pricing is around $50/mo.  What I’m
>>> saying is the “free” price was ridiculous, especially since Google Fiber is
>>> so holier-than-thou showing the other ISPs how it’s done.  It was either a
>>> stunt to get municipal approval, or they honestly believed 10 Mbps was so
>>> lame that most people would rather pay for gigabit.
>>>
>>> No matter what their logic, increasing your minimum tier from $0 to $50
>>> is a helluva price increase.  It would certainly seem to offer the local
>>> cable and telephone companies an opportunity to offer 10 Mbps at something
>>> less than $50, maybe around $30.  And maybe get some cable TV revenue.
>>> Because lots of people will still be happy with a meager 10 Mbps if it’s
>>> affordable, no matter what the elites think.  Just like some people are
>>> fine with French’s mustard instead of Grey Poupon, and beer instead of wine.
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, April 10, 2016 4:45 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber ends free 5Mbps Internet offer in
>>> Kansas City| Ars Technica
>>>
>>>
>>> I am under the impression you are not familiar with common metro
>>> broadband pricing.
>>>
>>> Honestly.
>>>
>>> I have a rather large spreadsheet of major North American fiber / cable
>>> / DSL providers, contracts, misc fees, etc.
>>>
>>> Once you get past the "contract promo" pricing, seeing 10Mbps for
>>> $45-55+ a month is far from uncommon - especially for the cable cos, which
>>> sucks when you see that 10Mbps stay at 2-4Mbps during peak because of how
>>> vastly over provisioned much of those networks are.
>>>
>>> That said, their 1Gbps pricing (which they want customers on, as gpon
>>> ports aren't free in the strategic sense) really stoked a fire under most
>>> of the providers asses.
>>> On Apr 10, 2016 4:38 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Free was silly.  But hiking the minimum tier from $0 to $50 is kind of
>>>> extreme.  They must have been surprised how many people were OK with a mere
>>>> 10 Mbps at America’s favorite price.
>>>>
>>>> Comcast’s $10 price is more reasonable than either $0 or $50.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, April 10, 2016 2:31 PM
>>>> *To:* Animal Farm <af@afmug.com>
>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Google Fiber ends free 5Mbps Internet offer in
>>>> Kansas City| Ars Technica
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://arstechnica.com/business/2016/04/google-fiber-ends-free-5mbps-internet-offer-in-kansas-city/
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>

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