Create like a /26, SWIP it as a description for your same ISP entity, but
"Free coffee shop wifi - unauthenticated access" in the description with
its own abuse address or whatever, and give the customers /30s inside that.


On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 7:17 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> isnt SWIP a minimum /29 though?
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 8:58 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> If it is a customer that operates a open public wifi AP like a coffee
>> shop, bar, restaurant, there is not a lot that you can do. Customer won't
>> stop running open wifi, people won't stop bringing in infected laptops. No
>> way to find out who has the infected laptops/devices.
>>
>> One possible solution if sufficient ARIN IP space is available is to put
>> all such customers in their own special swamp netblock as static
>> assignments. Consider that block forever sullied.
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 6:54 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I know its bad practice, I normally enjoy turning customers off, it
>>> makes me feel godlike and powerful, alot of times when i get to shut one
>>> off i go upstairs and drag mu woman from her bed by her hair to the kitchen
>>> to make me a sammich. but for whatever reason i like this customer
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 5:31 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Spam and botnet activity is far more harmful to the health of your
>>>> network and the IP reputation of your netblocks than anything DMCA related.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> torrents and DMCA notifications don't hurt the network. Knowingly
>>>> leaving something that is a repository of virii/worms/trojans online is
>>>> just bad practice.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 7:09 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We have a particular customer, We have been getting tons of abuse
>>>>> reports on their static IP, I assume we will never be able to wash this
>>>>> sullied IP clean. Theyre not really doing any harm to our network, or
>>>>> impacting others on the network, they are in full breach of our TOS, thats
>>>>> for sure. suprisingly, its primarily spam and botnet activity, but no 
>>>>> DMCA.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there any liability on us as an ISP to not address this
>>>>> affirmatively with the customer. Im going to contact them, may offer a
>>>>> leased fortigate UTM option. But if there isnt a resolution, other than
>>>>> their static IP residing on every blacklist can we get nailed?
>>>>>
>>>>> Its a good customer, pays their bill on time, worked with us through a
>>>>> service issue without the usual "gimme discounts and free shit or im going
>>>>> elsewhere" I dont want to HAVE to disconnect them if im not required to 
>>>>> and
>>>>> theyre not impacting others if they cant or wont resolve the issues
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

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