I don’t think so. From: Paul McCall Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 7:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CLEC or general Right of way question
Is it cheaper for a CLEC that an average Joe? From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 7:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CLEC or general Right of way question No, if it is on the tariff, it is for sale. From: Paul McCall Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 4:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CLEC or general Right of way question So. Without “forcing” ATT, do you have to be a CLEC to “have anything they offer on their tariff” ? We are only 500ft. from the RR tracks. It’s been a while since we explored the option to get a carrier to breakout here. There is no carrier hotel with 50 miles of here From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 6:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CLEC or general Right of way question If they have a co-lo room they will probably allow you to cross connect there. Frequently the carriers make you stop in a manhole outside their building and they take it from the manhole into the building. Not sure you can force AT&T to do anything anymore. If they are the local exchange carrier, they have to let you have anything they offer on their tariff. The Brand X decision a few years ago stripped CLECs of a bunch of rights like access to unbundled network elements etc. Building your own fiber to a co-lo is the best bet for the future. Is there a carrier hotel somewhere that you could get to so you can access other carriers? From: Paul McCall Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 4:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AFMUG] CLEC or general Right of way question In 2002, I had an ex CLEC consultant working for me who’s idea of fun was to digest FCC tariff’s. In doing so, he actually was able to “force” Bellsouth (later absorbed as ATT) to run fiber to our office. Over 2 miles of fiber was run “just for us” for the whopping cost of $ 2500. NTT verio then provided us BW over that fiber for 13 years, and we since have moved on. Like most everyone, the loop cost for anything we need to do is very expensive (ATT monopoly in this area). We have 2 fiber connections (ATT and HE) over the same ATT fiber path (not ideal – but not been a problem for 14 years) We are currently shopping BW and loop for the future, so the naturally the thought is the next piece of BW should be on a 10 GBit loop. ATT wants a ton for that piece, and either No Bids or crazy high bids all the providers we are talking to for our next BW. So, the question is this. Is it probable that there is a way to use the ATT path (underground and pretty big at least in our area) to run our own Fiber from here to the C/O. Then, our prospective carriers can just hand off to us in the ATT C/O. This Right of Way that ATT uses… Can someone else use the large conduit in the ground? Does it take being a CLEC? Does that force ATT to allow that or lease that conduit for a reasonable amount? Paul Paul McCall, President PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc. 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 [email protected] www.pdmnet.com www.floridabroadband.com
