Resale means it being the product. It doesn't mean you can't use it to transport your WISP back to Cermak.
Don't buy transit from incumbents anyway. Depending on where in your coverage area you're looking at, I see a few options. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Skorup" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 9:22:50 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CLEC or general Right of way question All we really have around here is AT&T too. They want $10k/mo for an ASE @ 10G. Comcast tried to sell us a 1G optical to our office. Everything of theirs is aerial and is taken out frequently. We told the rep to have the "no resale" taken out of the contract. They said no, but it will never be enforced. We said GTFO. On 6/18/2016 5:40 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: Hi Paul, FYI, in the fiber world, ATT is not the only option, and all of the fiber transport carriers do not go into / ATT Central offices. And yes, ATT is not competitive in 10g world. If you give me an address, I can help you shop for transport to one of the Miami Data Centers. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- <blockquote> From: "Paul McCall" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 6:26:09 PM Subject: CLEC or general Right of way question <blockquote> In 2002, I had an ex CLEC consultant working for me who’s idea of fun was to digest FCC tariff’s. In doing so, he actually was able to “force” Bellsouth (later absorbed as ATT) to run fiber to our office. Over 2 miles of fiber was run “just for us” for the whopping cost of $ 2500. NTT verio then provided us BW over that fiber for 13 years, and we since have moved on. Like most everyone, the loop cost for anything we need to do is very expensive (ATT monopoly in this area). We have 2 fiber connections (ATT and HE) over the same ATT fiber path (not ideal – but not been a problem for 14 years) We are currently shopping BW and loop for the future, so the naturally the thought is the next piece of BW should be on a 10 GBit loop. ATT wants a ton for that piece, and either No Bids or crazy high bids all the providers we are talking to for our next BW. So, the question is this. Is it probable that there is a way to use the ATT path (underground and pretty big at least in our area) to run our own Fiber from here to the C/O. Then, our prospective carriers can just hand off to us in the ATT C/O. This Right of Way that ATT uses… Can someone else use the large conduit in the ground? Does it take being a CLEC? Does that force ATT to allow that or lease that conduit for a reasonable amount? Paul Paul McCall, President PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc. 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 [email protected] www.pdmnet.com www.floridabroadband.com </blockquote> </blockquote>
