They've already been talking about it. 5GHz later this year and 3GHz next year. Beam steering is on the uplink only. As far as 5GHz anyway due to EIRP. I'm wondering if we'll get downlink steering on 3GHz, but something tells me no.

And yeah, I agree. If it's $5k per AP, that's not gonna work for us. $3k would be reasonable.

On 6/20/2016 5:16 PM, Daniel White wrote:

Since they will kill me if I say anything before they lift the embargo… I’d encourage you to attend:

http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/cnMedusa-Go-Massive-Live-Stream/m-p/55360#U55360

Daniel White

Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales

ConVergence Technologies__

Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590

[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>

*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
*Sent:* Monday, June 20, 2016 4:11 PM
*To:* af <[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Baicells - who's deployed it?

It's going to be interesting to see how they price Medusa. If they keep it more in line with the PMP450i 900mhz pricing (with no license keys on the SMs), then it will be pretty interesting... it could very well beat LTE in every way that I care about (for the near future, anyway).

Have they said what bands Medusa is going to be available in yet?

On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Craig Schmaderer <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    5k being high in typical cambium fashion. That is what i hear on
    nlos.  Ive talked to people with 3.65 450 and most of them say
    they still try to avoid a tree.  We are seeing a tree being easy.
    Its more like do you think we can make it through those 2 blocks
    of trees.  I always hate getting excited about a product when nlos
    comes into play because you are always let down.  But when that
    trial customer emailed me this morning and told me how well it
    worked through that storm it's kind of hard not to get excited.

    Craig Schmaderer
    Cell 402-380-1245 <tel:402-380-1245>
    Skywave Wireless, Inc.



    On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 4:44 PM -0500, "Josh Luthman"
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
    wrote:

    You think 5k is low or high? I'm not getting any NLOS hype from
    anything pmp450.


    Josh Luthman
    Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
    Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
    1100 Wayne St
    Suite 1337
    Troy, OH 45373

    On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 5:40 PM, Craig Schmaderer
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Cambium Medusa webinar launch is what I would guess he is
        talking about, its on wednesday.  Rivision 10 LTE as far as I
        know will include everything Medusa will do.  I think next
        year is when we will start seeing R10 chips hit the market and
        manufactures will start adopting it.  We are 100% cambium
        right now, have been for over 10 years, but I am always
        looking for something that will work along side other
        options.  Still need to do more testing, but LTE has a better
        link budget, so your 450 with mixed sms running from 1x to 8x
        should perform better over an average on LTE, we just have to
        do more testing to verify that.  We don’t have any 900 or 3.65
        450 so im still waiting to hear from other trial providers on
        nlos comparisons.   If that Medusa Access Point is 5 grand I’m
        going to ***** cambium….

        *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
        *Sent:* Monday, June 20, 2016 4:04 PM
        *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Baicells - who's deployed it?

        Who's they???


        Josh Luthman
        Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
        Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
        1100 Wayne St
        Suite 1337
        Troy, OH 45373

        On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 5:03 PM, Josh Reynolds
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            If he told you now, they couldn't tell you on Wednesday.
            You're not THAT special. :P

            On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 4:02 PM, Josh Luthman
            <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                This Wednesday?  Why?


                Josh Luthman
                Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
                Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
                1100 Wayne St
                Suite 1337
                Troy, OH 45373

                On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 5:01 PM, Daniel White
                <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                    I think it will be a whole new conversation on
                    Wednesday.

                    Daniel White

                    Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales

                    ConVergence Technologies

                    Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
                    <tel:%2B1%20%28303%29%20746-3590>

                    [email protected]
                    <mailto:[email protected]>

                    *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
                    <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Kurt
                    Fankhauser
                    *Sent:* Monday, June 20, 2016 11:22 AM
                    *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Baicells - who's deployed it?

                    90mbps in a 20mhz Channel? That's what Cambium 450
                    could get 2 years ago on a whole lot more solid
                    software/firmware.

                    So whats the advantages of the LTE? Is it going to
                    be cheaper than the Cambium 450? Is the license
                    keys for SM throughput or can 1 SM do the full speed?

                    On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 9:00 AM, Craig Schmaderer
                    <[email protected]
                    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                        I have it.  They are letting me talk about it
pass my nda. Hardware so far is solid. Software is very beta. Missing many key
                        features needed for comerical deployment. We
                        are seeing about 90mb on 20mhz which is what
                        is to be expected with R9 LTE.   I posted
                        maybe a week ago on one of our links.  5ghz is
                        on the road map.  Shoot me your questions.

                        Craig Schmaderer
                        Cell 402-380-1245 <tel:402-380-1245>
                        Skywave Wireless, Inc.

                        On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 10:52 PM -0500, "Colin
                        Stanners" <[email protected]
                        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                        Like are you thinking against each other, or
                        fighting Matt and Sriram from Cambium in one
                        corner and Telrad ex-Mossad snipers in another?

                        On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 4:17 PM, That One Guy
                        /sarcasm <[email protected]
                        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                            I havent heard much from them lately, do
                            you think rick and Patrick ended up in a
                            knife fight?

                            On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Josh
                            Luthman <[email protected]
                            <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                                Ban all Baicells 5 GHz.  Leave it to
                                the cheap gear!!!


                                Josh Luthman
                                Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
                                Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
                                1100 Wayne St
                                Suite 1337
                                Troy, OH 45373

                                On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 4:13 PM, Kurt
                                Fankhauser <[email protected]
                                <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                                    Do they have any frequencies out
                                    there besides 3.65ghz? Are 5ghz
                                    trials going on right now?

                                    On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 3:09 PM,
                                    Josh Luthman
                                    <[email protected]
                                    <mailto:[email protected]>>
                                    wrote:

                                        Does anyone besides the guys
                                        in Amarillo have this gear
                                        deployed? Care to comment
                                        on/off list?

                                        Josh Luthman
                                        Office: 937-552-2340
                                        <tel:937-552-2340>
                                        Direct: 937-552-2343
                                        <tel:937-552-2343>
                                        1100 Wayne St
                                        Suite 1337
                                        Troy, OH 45373



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