Yeah, I opened a support ticket, and they want remote access.  Well, duh, the 
problem is I lose remote access to the SMs after upgrade.

And unfortunately it is not reproducible, any given SM can exhibit a variety of 
symptoms from working fine but prompting for a reboot to unreachable until the 
customer power cycles it.  And I don’t see any rhyme or reason to it.

I was hoping they would tell me I was doing something wrong, like I needed an 
older version of CNUT, or I should have left the APs at 12.1 until upgrading 
the SMs instead of taking them to 13.2.  Or that it was a known bug with 12.1 
that was fixed in 12.1.2.



From: George Skorup 
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 6:02 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 430 FW upgrade path (for 450 transition)

If they're successfully upgraded to 12.1 or 12.1.2, then obviously they're 
taking the reboot command from CNUT. This sounds like a problem you can 
reproduce over and over. I'd ask Cambium for help and see if they could figure 
it out in the lab. I wouldn't want to have to call 100+ customers and have them 
reboot their radios either.


On 6/20/2016 4:41 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

  Cambium support came back that you can go from 11.2 to 12.1.2.

  But that doesn’t seem to solve my problem, and the problem does not seem to 
be unchecked frequencies.  Rather, the SMs are not rebooting after the upgrade, 
they are wanting a manual reboot.  Sure enough, you log into them, they say 
they are on 12.1 FW, but prompt you for a reboot.

  But some of them won’t register properly until you reboot them.  If they 
constantly rereg and only register fleetingly, sometimes I’m able to log in 
long enough to do the reboot.  I’ve had at least one that I had to have the 
customer power cycle the SM.  I was scared to do this, but it worked.

  I don’t want to upgrade hundreds of SMs and randomly have some that I need to 
have the customer power cycle them, and others that I try and try until I catch 
it registered long enough to log in and reboot.

  FWIW, the next step to 13.4.1 has gone without a hitch.  It’s getting to 12.1 
or 12.1.2 where the auto reboot fails.  Oh, the APs did this also, but it 
seemed cosmetic, it seemed they actually did reboot and worked fine.


  From: George Skorup 
  Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 11:54 AM
  To: [email protected] 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 430 FW upgrade path (for 450 transition)

  What Ken is worried about (because I've chatted off-list with him) is that 
release (or series of releases) where some frequencies get unchecked from the 
SM scan list.

  Here you go Ken. 12.1.1 was the bad one. The only thing I don't remember is 
if you have to hit 12.2.2 first because of the interop stuff. But it sounds 
like no. So as Sean says, I think you'll be fine getting to 12.1 first and then 
whatever release you want after that.

  From 12.1.2 release notes:
  Starting in 12.1.1, if the PMP430 SM is configured with a Radio Scan List 
containing frequencies which are invalid for the configured Region Code, then 
loading the Configuration -> Radio page could cause some of the valid frequency 
selections to be lost on the next radio reboot. This has been fixed in 12.1.2 
and it is recommended to upgrade to 12.1.2 and to always click “Save Changes” 
when viewing the Configuration -> Radio page on radios running 12.1.1.

  I don't remember having "invalid for the configured region code" frequencies. 
It just randomly lost frequencies. But whatever.

  And I don't remember which release(s) it was that stored the bad frequency 
offset in the 450 SMs. But it sucked.


  On 6/20/2016 11:07 AM, Sean Heskett wrote:

    You can just go to 12.1 and then 13.4.1 


    If the 450 is going to be on 14.1.x then use sm auto update to bring the 
430 sm up to 14.1.x (I'd recommend 14.1.2beta 17 rather than 14.1.1 even tho 
it's stil "beta" 14.1.2beta 17 is WAY more stable than 14.1.1)


    And then same thing if you are going to use 14.2 (which is still beta)

    -Sean


    On Monday, June 20, 2016, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

      When Cambium says to first upgrade to 12.1, do they literally mean 12.1, 
or 12.1.2? 





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