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From: Travis Johnson 
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 12:35 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Credit card irregularities.

Does the 3% credit card processing fee ($300 on $10k) justify the miles you 
will gain? How much is it to just "buy" the same amount of miles?

Inquiring minds want to know. I use a 2% cashback on everything card for ALL my 
personal expenses (groceries, gas, utility bills, cell phone bill, food, car 
expenses, etc), and a different business card (also 2% cashback on every single 
item) for all my business stuff. Then I just get checks mailed to me about once 
a month for the rewards. The miles game always seemed like a lot of work to 
track everything, etc.


Travis



On 7/6/2016 12:08 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  S Corp

  From: Jason Wilson 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 12:07 PM
  To: [email protected] 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Credit card irregularities.

  Sole Proprietor? LLC or Corp?  If you are a structured org (llc,Corp) and you 
have an invoice for said items then you should be ok.

  Credit card kiting refers to the use of one or more credit cards to obtain 
cash and purchasing power they do not have, or pay credit card balances with 
the proceeds of other cards. Unlike check kiting, which is illegal under nearly 
all circumstances, laws against credit card kiting are not completely 
prohibitive of the practice, thereby allowing it to be done to some degree. It 
is up to the banks to detect the practice and when necessary, stop it.

  In order for prosecution to occur in a credit card kiting scheme, a bank must 
prove intent to deceive.[1] Eq seq reference infers paying credit card minimum 
balances with credit card proceeds is de facto evidence of deceit.

  It all will depend on your CC Processor.




  Jason Wilson
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  On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Cameron Crum <[email protected]> wrote:

    I didn't think about the miles thing. I just didn't think they would care 
as they are still getting paid and you'll be out about 3% of the charge. The 
biggest charge I've run through my own cars was about $300. I know square used 
to hold funds over $1000 for some period...like 7 days or so? Maybe that is too 
long, but I seem to remember something like that. 

    On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> 
wrote:

      From what came up a while ago you can do that no problem after contacting 
the merchant but IPPay doesn't allow those shenanigans.



      Josh Luthman
      Office: 937-552-2340
      Direct: 937-552-2343
      1100 Wayne St
      Suite 1337
      Troy, OH 45373


      On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

        I am thinking of doing this for about $10K and really don’t want to get 
money or systems locked up.  
        I can also run it through my ecommerce site and I have a quick books 
merchant account too.  

        From: Cameron Crum 
        Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 11:50 AM
        To: [email protected] 
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Credit card irregularities.

        I've run my own card on my own account before a couple of times for 
testing and for paying myself for something as well. I'm not sure they really 
care, but I haven't read the AUP in like 4 years.  

        Cameron

        On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

          This has been covered here before.  I am considering buying something 
from my own company.  Have Jenny run my personal card on her company square 
reader.  

          Not sure if that violates any kind of AUP.  Hate to get her merchant 
account shut down.  It is a woman owned business with her owning more than 
half.  I don’t technically work there.  I am not on the payroll.  

          How risky is this?





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