AMEX are assholes … pardon my jumping in but I’ve had problems with them with personal AMEX cards and lots of problems in the past with their business AMEX – every time I called them about issues they treated me like dirt… compare that experience to bank X and it’s always been a more pleasant experience. AMEX for some reason got too cushy in my opinion as they were the “corporate standard” for anyone in a Fortune 1000 company that travelled or expensed anything.
From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: July 6, 2016 4:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Credit card irregularities. I have had bad experiences with totally clean legit AMEX before. I can only imagine. From: Chuck Hogg <mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 1:50 PM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Credit card irregularities. So just a simple word of advice...don't do it. We did this before for a rental house that needed a new A/C. The guy originally told us he could take AMEX and then found out he couldn't. So we ended up running the transaction, to pay the contractor. AMEX said that since we were owners of the company, it violated the merchant services agreement. We ended up tying up $8,700 in limbo for 3 weeks and almost lost our AMEX merchant account. In the end, they voided the transaction. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Gino Villarini <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: good lord! in need to apply for that 2% cash back! we are pumping over $100k per month to our corp amex On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 3:31 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: I like miles because I can’t spend them. Dollars back I would spend and then when I need to go to the UK to visit my daughter I have to cough up the dough. From: Forrest Christian (List Account) <mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 1:30 PM To: af <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Credit card irregularities. The Citi double cash is 2%. I used to use it as my everyday spend card. I am having really good luck with chase ultimate rewards earning cards, and also spg earning cards. With the combination of the chase sapphire, freedom, and freedom unlimited cards for personal and chase ink, I get anywhere between 3% and 10% back in travel rewards (mostly hotels and an occasional flight). But this only works if you travel enough that you can redeem for values over 2 cents per point. With the chase freedom and discover they have revolving bonus categories which are 5x points (10% effectively). We try to buy gift cards to maximize this.. for instance, we're currently watching movies using theatre gift cards from the last time the rewards category was movie theatres. Back to the question about whether it makes sense to run cards through your own merchant account... maybe if you're trying to meet a minimum spend, or need a few miles to make a reward work, but I sure can't see this making sense on a regular basis. On Jul 6, 2016 12:37 PM, "Josh Luthman" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: What's the 2% personal card if I can ask? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343> 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 2:35 PM, Travis Johnson <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Does the 3% credit card processing fee ($300 on $10k) justify the miles you will gain? How much is it to just "buy" the same amount of miles? Inquiring minds want to know. I use a 2% cashback on everything card for ALL my personal expenses (groceries, gas, utility bills, cell phone bill, food, car expenses, etc), and a different business card (also 2% cashback on every single item) for all my business stuff. Then I just get checks mailed to me about once a month for the rewards. The miles game always seemed like a lot of work to track everything, etc. Travis On 7/6/2016 12:08 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: S Corp From: Jason Wilson <mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 12:07 PM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Credit card irregularities. Sole Proprietor? LLC or Corp? If you are a structured org (llc,Corp) and you have an invoice for said items then you should be ok. Credit card kiting refers to the use of one or more <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_card> credit cards to obtain cash and purchasing power they do not have, or pay <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_card> credit card balances with the proceeds of other cards. Unlike <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Check_kiting> check kiting, which is illegal under nearly all circumstances, laws against credit card kiting are not completely prohibitive of the practice, thereby allowing it to be done to some degree. It is up to the banks to detect the practice and when necessary, stop it. In order for prosecution to occur in a credit card kiting scheme, a bank must prove intent to deceive. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_card_kiting#cite_note-1> [1] Eq seq reference infers paying credit card minimum balances with <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_card> credit card proceeds is <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_facto> de facto evidence of deceit. It all will depend on your CC Processor. <http://remotelylocated.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/cropped-Remotely-Located-Logo.jpg> Jason Wilson Remotely Located Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places. 530-651-1736 <tel:530-651-1736> 530-748-9608 <tel:530-748-9608> Cell www.remotelylocated.com <http://www.remotelylocated.com> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Cameron Crum <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: I didn't think about the miles thing. I just didn't think they would care as they are still getting paid and you'll be out about 3% of the charge. The biggest charge I've run through my own cars was about $300. I know square used to hold funds over $1000 for some period...like 7 days or so? Maybe that is too long, but I seem to remember something like that. On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: >From what came up a while ago you can do that no problem after contacting the >merchant but IPPay doesn't allow those shenanigans. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343> 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: I am thinking of doing this for about $10K and really don’t want to get money or systems locked up. I can also run it through my ecommerce site and I have a quick books merchant account too. From: Cameron Crum <mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 11:50 AM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Credit card irregularities. I've run my own card on my own account before a couple of times for testing and for paying myself for something as well. I'm not sure they really care, but I haven't read the AUP in like 4 years. Cameron On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: This has been covered here before. I am considering buying something from my own company. Have Jenny run my personal card on her company square reader. Not sure if that violates any kind of AUP. Hate to get her merchant account shut down. It is a woman owned business with her owning more than half. I don’t technically work there. I am not on the payroll. How risky is this?
